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Jul 30, 2012 3:14 AM in response to whetty101by sardo007,I have it clear enough... I WON'T PAY for ML.... I already paid for Lion and I would have better tossed the money in a waste basket... at least my time would have not be wasted... and that's worse than any money... Fortunately I got my machine running SL again long ago... If ML solves the so called "hardware issue" then so be it, and have a nice time... but if Apple were a serious company they would have to PAY US for all our lost time doing THEIR work (well... sort of) In fact they should have give ML as a free upgrade to all Lion users who paid for Lion and have been struggling with it being beta testers that PAID to be so...
Well... sorry for the rant, but this is so annoying I just can't help it...
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Jul 30, 2012 3:37 AM in response to AntonTokarby jamesfromvenice,I wish I could say the same. I have "upgraded" two MBPs to ML, and continue to experience the crashes, possibly less frequently but far too often to consider these computers as reliable or productive. Running Lion or ML for serious work is like trying to do carpentry with a hammer whose head constantly falls off. Apple seems only interested in the pre pubsecent FB, Twitter, IM market for its latest products.
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Jul 30, 2012 6:00 AM in response to jamesfromveniceby jvjv,are you guys reading the previous posts?
there's no software fix for this. not a chance ML will fix this. you gotta take to assistance and replace the logic board.
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Jul 30, 2012 6:14 AM in response to whetty101by jvjv,here's my update and some final thoughts on the issue:
they replaced the LB, free of charge even though the computer is past the warranty (it qualified for the TS4088 recall). and now everything's fine. the assistance was actually pretty good.
i've said it before, i'll repeat: there's no software fix, will never be. you could at most "hide" the problem, which is really bad, specially when there is a better free solution.
take your computer to assistance. print the TS4088 article. ask them to see what tests must be run to check if the computer applies for TS4088 recall.
also: video-stressing tests don't detect the problem.
because, like i said before (read my previous posts), it's not about the intensive graphics, it's all about the switching to nvidia.
i believe the TS4088 test is a not the ordinary video stressing test. and so, if your computer has the exactly same problem we all shared here, and if the assistance says your computer didn't apply for TS4088, you can be pretty sure they're running the wrong tests. take it to another assistance or explain the issue to them, ask them to check which tests they're running.
i guess that's it. good luck to us all.
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Jul 30, 2012 6:45 AM in response to jvjvby jvjv,PS: It's great that there is a recall for a free replacement of the LB. But Apple could have done this much better. They should have made it a real "recall" (they don't even use that word, which is a shame). They should have mailed the owners of these MBP models, informing about the problem and the recall. Instead, the TS4088 only mentions the recall in small, confusing letters at the end of the article. That's coward.
And then people are lost searching on the internet for a solution, afraid they'll have to pay hundreds of dollars for it, angry because their computers aren't even 2 years old. Not to mention all the assistances that have never heard about the problem. And this is a very serious problem, on a very expensive computer. It should have been handled more seriously.
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Jul 30, 2012 9:23 AM in response to jvjvby jamesfromvenice,On one of my MBPs the LB was replaced, and it helped some, but the problem persists. Some others on this forum have reported the same.
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Jul 30, 2012 12:48 PM in response to jvjvby Barbados_1246,I did the same. Took my Mbp into the Apple store to get the Logic board swapped out. I told the tech I was one of the people on the message board having the Black Screen of Death issue. Since the LB replacement, I haven't had any further problems. I was scared to upgrade to ML though, but so far it hasn't crashed since then either. (Knock on wood.) I was covered under warranty as well, so this was all free of cost The invoice however says if I didn't buy AppleCare this would have cost me USD$578... Ouch! 1/4th the cost of the device. It seems like the gov't should have forced a recall/replacement.
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Jul 31, 2012 5:04 PM in response to jvjvby AntonTokar,I've been running ML for 4 days and no crash since then occured Maybe I am too lucky but in this case, software fixed this for me. Before upgrade i was experiencing 2-3 crashes a day.
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Jul 31, 2012 10:20 PM in response to Net-wolfby Net-wolf,I wanted to report that the other day I finally got a call back from the Apple store. They finally replaced my logic board and said they were sorry it took so long. I just wish they would have listened to me a month ago, it shouldn't have been this difficult to get resolved. The only reason it was fixed was due to the help on this thread. I wonder how many people ended up spending hundreds of dollars on repairs because they weren't aware of the recall...Anyway, I'm happy it's over with, and I haven't had any further problems so far.
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Aug 1, 2012 12:21 AM in response to whetty101by michal.janak,okay, since friday, when I upgraded to ML...no crash!
for people saying this is a HW problem and only LB replacement would work: ...well...it wouldn't. as you can read, many users report the problem persists after the LB replacement. the fact the ML upgrade fixes the problem to a certain extent might signal apple is working on a SW solution after all, they just haven't figured it out yet.
they replace the LB, because at this point it is the only thing they can do and not loose integrity - but apparently it seems to me the problem is not in a faulty series of GT 330M, but in the combination of components. they just replace one with another. it might and might not work.
ML seems to be much more stable. I did run some stress tests and no crash since the ML. give it a try. if you don't want to pay..well..it's not that much, the license is for 10 machines and eventually, you have to upgrade at some point.
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Aug 1, 2012 4:26 AM in response to whetty101by BilgeFoyle,Here is mine:
Interval Since Last Panic Report: 21 sec
Panics Since Last Report: 3
Anonymous UUID: 01D361D7-F2BE-4F36-AAA6-AEFDC483C9F0
Wed Aug 1 14:15:55 2012
panic(cpu 0 caller 0xffffff7f8299ec85): NVRM[0/1:0:0]: Read Error 0x00000100: CFG 0xffffffff 0xffffffff 0xffffffff, BAR0 0xd2000000 0xffffff80a1599000 0x0a5480a2, D0, P3/4
Backtrace (CPU 0), Frame : Return Address
0xffffff807837aac0 : 0xffffff800221d5f6
0xffffff807837ab30 : 0xffffff7f8299ec85
0xffffff807837abc0 : 0xffffff7f82a985b7
0xffffff807837ac20 : 0xffffff7f82a9862b
0xffffff807837ac90 : 0xffffff7f82dad883
0xffffff807837add0 : 0xffffff7f82abe75d
0xffffff807837ae00 : 0xffffff7f829a89e6
0xffffff807837aeb0 : 0xffffff7f829a40b8
0xffffff807837b0a0 : 0xffffff7f829a52e4
0xffffff807837b170 : 0xffffff7f83a492f5
0xffffff807837b2f0 : 0xffffff7f83a4662b
0xffffff807837b370 : 0xffffff7f83a4725e
0xffffff807837b400 : 0xffffff7f83a479c7
0xffffff807837b530 : 0xffffff7f83a4847c
0xffffff807837b640 : 0xffffff7f83a671da
0xffffff807837b680 : 0xffffff7f83a68378
0xffffff807837b930 : 0xffffff7f83a7a8aa
0xffffff807837baa0 : 0xffffff7f83a7b1f4
0xffffff807837bae0 : 0xffffff7f83a7bd13
0xffffff807837bb20 : 0xffffff7f83a70eea
0xffffff807837bb50 : 0xffffff7f83a53ddf
0xffffff807837bba0 : 0xffffff8002665313
0xffffff807837bbc0 : 0xffffff8002665eed
0xffffff807837bc20 : 0xffffff80026638ef
0xffffff807837bd70 : 0xffffff80022981a1
0xffffff807837be80 : 0xffffff8002220abd
0xffffff807837beb0 : 0xffffff8002210448
0xffffff807837bf00 : 0xffffff80022195fb
0xffffff807837bf70 : 0xffffff80022a5ad6
0xffffff807837bfb0 : 0xffffff80022ced13
Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
com.apple.NVDAResman(8.0)[6A699209-FB98-316B-A3C0-DCA82AA8C86B]@0xffffff7f82937 000->0xffffff7f82c39fff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.7)[8C9E06A4-13D0-33F5-A377-9E36F0ECC229]@0xffffff 7f828ac000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(2.3.4)[E37F420A-B5CD-38ED-9441-5247583B6ACE]@0xff ffff7f82923000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.3.4)[5D671681-D21B-3CCA-9810-B15E648C1B27]@0 xffffff7f828e0000
com.apple.nvidia.nv50hal(8.0)[9CD95A4A-FD94-349E-A4B6-FC3B74E197F5]@0xffffff7f8 2c47000->0xffffff7f82f69fff
dependency: com.apple.NVDAResman(8.0.0)[6A699209-FB98-316B-A3C0-DCA82AA8C86B]@0xffffff7f829 37000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.7)[8C9E06A4-13D0-33F5-A377-9E36F0ECC229]@0xffffff 7f828ac000
com.apple.GeForce(8.0)[91C40470-82BA-329A-A9D7-4C70F28275FD]@0xffffff7f83a10000 ->0xffffff7f83ad2fff
dependency: com.apple.NVDAResman(8.0.0)[6A699209-FB98-316B-A3C0-DCA82AA8C86B]@0xffffff7f829 37000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(2.3.4)[E37F420A-B5CD-38ED-9441-5247583B6ACE]@0xff ffff7f82923000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.7)[8C9E06A4-13D0-33F5-A377-9E36F0ECC229]@0xffffff 7f828ac000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.3.4)[5D671681-D21B-3CCA-9810-B15E648C1B27]@0 xffffff7f828e0000
BSD process name corresponding to current thread: iTunes
Mac OS version:
12A269
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 12.0.0: Sun Jun 24 23:00:16 PDT 2012; root:xnu-2050.7.9~1/RELEASE_X86_64
Kernel UUID: 8D5F8EF3-9D12-384B-8070-EF2A49C45D24
Kernel slide: 0x0000000002000000
Kernel text base: 0xffffff8002200000
System model name: MacBookPro6,2 (Mac-F22586C8)
System uptime in nanoseconds: 759487025264
last loaded kext at 72958465570: com.apple.filesystems.smbfs 1.8 (addr 0xffffff7f82816000, size 229376)
last unloaded kext at 242950284118: com.apple.driver.AppleUSBUHCI 5.1.5 (addr 0xffffff7f83273000, size 65536)
loaded kexts:
com.apple.filesystems.smbfs 1.8
com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor 1.9.5d0
com.apple.driver.AudioAUUC 1.60
com.apple.driver.AGPM 100.12.69
com.apple.filesystems.autofs 3.0
com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyHIDDriver 122
com.apple.driver.AppleHDA 2.3.0f2
com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyDriver 2.3.0f2
com.apple.iokit.BroadcomBluetoothHCIControllerUSBTransport 4.0.9f8
com.apple.driver.ACPI_SMC_PlatformPlugin 1.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleSMCLMU 2.0.2d0
com.apple.driver.AppleSMCPDRC 1.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleLPC 1.6.0
com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient 3.5.10
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelHDGraphics 8.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelHDGraphicsFB 8.0.0
com.apple.iokit.IOUserEthernet 1.0.0d1
com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothSerialManager 4.0.9f8
com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X 7.0.0
com.apple.driver.ApplePolicyControl 3.2.6
com.apple.driver.AppleMuxControl 3.2.6
com.apple.driver.AppleMCCSControl 1.0.33
com.apple.GeForce 8.0.0
com.apple.driver.SMCMotionSensor 3.0.2d6
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCButtons 235.4
com.apple.driver.AppleIRController 320.15
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyboard 235.4
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBCardReader 3.1.0
com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeDataless 1.0.0d1
com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeZlib 1.0.0d1
com.apple.BootCache 34
com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient 3.5.1
com.apple.driver.XsanFilter 404
com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIBlockStorage 2.2.0
com.apple.driver.AirPort.Brcm4331 600.15.20
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub 5.1.6
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com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall 4.0.39
com.apple.security.quarantine 2
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com.apple.kext.triggers 1.0
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com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily 1.8.9fc9
com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib 1.6
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com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginLegacy 1.0.0
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com.apple.nvidia.nv50hal 8.0.0
com.apple.NVDAResman 8.0.0
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com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily 5.1.6
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com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily 1.8.0
com.apple.iokit.IOSMBusFamily 1.1
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com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily 1.8
com.apple.driver.AppleKeyStore 28.18
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform 1.6
com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily 2.7
com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily 1.4
com.apple.kec.corecrypto 1.0
Model: MacBookPro6,2, BootROM MBP61.0057.B0F, 2 processors, Intel Core i7, 2.66 GHz, 4 GB, SMC 1.58f16
Graphics: Intel HD Graphics, Intel HD Graphics, Built-In, 288 MB
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M, NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M, PCIe, 512 MB
Memory Module: BANK 0/DIMM0, 2 GB, DDR3, 1067 MHz, 0x802C, 0x31364A53463235363634485A2D3147314631
Memory Module: BANK 1/DIMM0, 2 GB, DDR3, 1067 MHz, 0x802C, 0x31364A53463235363634485A2D3147314631
AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x14E4, 0x93), Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.106.98.81.20)
Bluetooth: Version 4.0.9f8 10405, 2 service, 11 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
Network Service: AirPort, AirPort, en1
Serial ATA Device: TOSHIBA MK5055GSXF, 500.11 GB
Serial ATA Device: HL-DT-ST DVDRW GS23N
USB Device: hub_device, 0x0424 (SMSC), 0x2514, 0xfa100000 / 2
USB Device: Internal Memory Card Reader, apple_vendor_id, 0x8403, 0xfa130000 / 5
USB Device: BRCM2070 Hub, 0x0a5c (Broadcom Corp.), 0x4500, 0xfa110000 / 4
USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, apple_vendor_id, 0x8218, 0xfa113000 / 7
USB Device: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad, apple_vendor_id, 0x0237, 0xfa120000 / 3
USB Device: hub_device, 0x0424 (SMSC), 0x2514, 0xfd100000 / 2
USB Device: Built-in iSight, apple_vendor_id, 0x8507, 0xfd110000 / 4
USB Device: IR Receiver, apple_vendor_id, 0x8242, 0xfd120000 / 3
I'm about to go crazy.
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Aug 1, 2012 4:44 AM in response to BilgeFoyleby gen_,Oh wow Bilge. That definitely suggests that your Video Card may be the problem, else it could be your drivers. NVresman is a part of the graphics driver and IOPCIkit is your PCI connection (which is the tech that computers use to connect graphics cards to motherboards)
In fact it's pretty likely to be your drivers, so much so that Nvidia got kinda ****** at Apple drivers (and lies about needing EFI) and released thier own, which can be found here http://www.nvidia.com/object/macosx-270.00.00f01-driver.html?ClickID=czsxaznvwkn f4fsf7kqwppfei7fziiiqpnsn
Try that and see if it helps.
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Aug 1, 2012 4:41 AM in response to gen_by kkiran,Interesting, never knew this existed.
I wonder if they will release the software for mountain lion.
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Aug 1, 2012 4:52 AM in response to gen_by BilgeFoyle,Thank you Gen. I hope it works, but i'm doubtful.
If it doesn't work, i'm going to try to fix it with TS4088 way.
I've experienced hard reset for 3 times in 20 minutes, which it really makes my life miserable right now.
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Aug 1, 2012 4:55 AM in response to kkiranby gen_,I very much think they will (make one for Lion), but not yet. I just realized on Bilges logs however that he has a MBP. Due to the fact that the installer has a lot of drivers for PC based cards built into it as well (it makes any Nvidia card Mac compatible while speeding up all native Mac cards on Mac Pro) it may refuse to install. The advised method for installation is this (I have it and it fixed checkerbox glitches on a Snow Leopard partition on my Mac Mini)
Download the driver.
Right click on the installer package file and click 'Show package contents'.
Individually install the .pkg files contained in there.
If that doesnt fix it, I am officially stumped.
Message was edited by: gen_ spelling and mistaking kkiran for Bilge