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Q: Lion WiFi Connection Problem

Since installing Lion on both my IMac and MacBook Pro, the WiFi cycles (wifi icon on the menu bar) - looking for network - network on - looking for network. iMac with OS 10.6 doesn't have this problem so it's not the AirPort and there was no problem prior to installing Lion.  The AirPort Utility log shows lots of connection activity but I don't know if that means anything. The network troubleshooter says theres no problem but it's causing big problems with connection speed and applications that need a constant connection are giving me network errors constantly.  Please give me some advise.... 

Posted on Jul 20, 2011 5:19 PM

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  • by shaheeb,

    shaheeb shaheeb Dec 24, 2011 6:58 PM in response to lrogersinlv
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    Dec 24, 2011 6:58 PM in response to lrogersinlv

    Hello!

     

    I've just tried the downgrade to the SL drivers as indicated in a previous post, but my macbook pro simply lost access to the wifi card altogether.  The little wifi icon in the menu bar reported "No Hardware Installed".  I had used the backup option in Kext Wizard, and was able to simply restore back to the original state.

     

    This is a brand new macbook pro 15" (has to be late 2011 since I got it about 4 days ago).  Running

    Mac OS X Lion 10.7.2 (11C2002)

     

    Card Type:          AirPort Extreme  (0x14E4, 0xD6)

      Firmware Version:          Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.100.98.75.18)

    IO80211 Family:          4.1.1 (411.1)

     

    Incidentally, when I performed the downgrade, and looked up the system information, the IO80211 Family was reading 3.1.1 (311.1), but listed no other information at all.

     

    Any advice?

     

    Thanks!

     

    SR

  • by Rico1111,

    Rico1111 Rico1111 Dec 29, 2011 9:11 PM in response to shaheeb
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    Dec 29, 2011 9:11 PM in response to shaheeb

    WOW!!!! SILENCE! Where did everyone go? Has everyone fixed their wifi issues? Mine has been okay after changing the channel in airport ....well sort of okay....it stays connected for a good amount of time ...I still get dropped but not as much.

    Shaheeb..sorry can't offer any advice.....hope u get it all straightened out.

  • by Cyclic,

    Cyclic Cyclic Dec 29, 2011 9:18 PM in response to Rico1111
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    Dec 29, 2011 9:18 PM in response to Rico1111

    Yeah.  I have to say, I made a few major changes, and haven't seen the issue lately.  First, I have been using Chromium.  Second, I changed my home router settings:


    Fragmentation Length (256-2346)
    2306
    CTS/RTS Threshold (1-2347)2307
    Preamble Mode

    Long

     

     

    And last but not least, I updated from Lion 10.7.0 to 10.7.1 about 2 weeks ago.  All seems pretty solid and normal now. Even starbucks connection seems fine.

     

    I will report back if the flakes that don't melt return.

  • by emd3,

    emd3 emd3 Dec 30, 2011 12:43 AM in response to Rico1111
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    Dec 30, 2011 12:43 AM in response to Rico1111

    Went to Apple store and meet with a Genius.  We reset Safari, went to one location, Automatic, under network settings and put the DNS on Automatic as well. So far that seems to be working.  When I wake my MBP up it connects and so far I have not had a dropoff in 4 days. So thats all I have. 

     

    I can't believe it was that easy but the acid test will be when I go hame and try my office router where I was having real problems.  So more on that after I get home on the 5th.

     

    HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

  • by Rico1111,

    Rico1111 Rico1111 Dec 30, 2011 7:02 AM in response to emd3
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    Dec 30, 2011 7:02 AM in response to emd3

    Glad to hear that some are having good results with adjustments to routers ...emd3 Right back at ya and everyone else HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!    Was starting to wonder if anyone was still having issues or I missed an actual release patch! lol......

  • by torndownunit,

    torndownunit torndownunit Dec 30, 2011 7:22 AM in response to Rico1111
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    Dec 30, 2011 7:22 AM in response to Rico1111

    Someone asked about updates a few posts ago.  Things seem to be running 'decently' for me at this point.  I do get drops, but I will go days without one.  I am still not happy with speeds at times though.  But it's been a couple of weeks now and things the drops are infrequent.

     

    The problem is I tried every fix in this thread before something stuck.   I THINK it was a combination of DHCP renewal (one of my last posts likely mentions this and a link to a video), and starting up from the recovery disk and repairing/fixing permissions.   Those are the last 2 fixes I tried, and they seem to have stuck (knock on wood).

     

    I'm sorry to anyone who hasn't got it fixed.  I feel your pain.  I am glad to have mine working, but the fact that I had to go through a dozen fixes on a new computer is ridiculous.

  • by Kevanojb,

    Kevanojb Kevanojb Jan 1, 2012 10:29 AM in response to lrogersinlv
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    Jan 1, 2012 10:29 AM in response to lrogersinlv

    I had a woeful connnection that seems to have appeared over the last few weeks.   I run an iMac 27" with 100mb internet, so have experienced a good service previously with the Lion update.  My ethernet and wifi were affected.  I believe, through my own trial and error that there must have been conflicting DHCP's causing the issue.  You may have the same problem.

     

    This works, after having reinstalled, messed about with every setting, contacted Apple, emailed friends etc....

     

    Choose Edit Locations under Network - via System Preferences or right clicking the wifi signal icon and choosing Open Network Preferences

     

    Select + (plus sign)  to add a location and name it anything you want, select this new location

     

    Go to Advanced (outer menu)

     

    Renew DHCP lease.  It takes a short time for you to be able to 'Apply' but you don't need to at thsi time,  as it works from here on,and Apply will be available shortly in any event.

     

    Get rid of your old Location

     

    Reboot computer

     

    The new settings should have reverted to a previous good connection.

     

    This worked for me, and I'm back to an iMac abd connection I bought a few months back.

     

    Regards

     

    Kev

  • by jeroen184,

    jeroen184 jeroen184 Jan 2, 2012 3:36 AM in response to Rico1111
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    Jan 2, 2012 3:36 AM in response to Rico1111

    Rico, still here. Can you try for me the solution that worked for me?

     

    All,

    I have the same issue with a brand new Lion iMac (Dec 2011), not with a Snow Leopard MacBook Pro (May 2011). When I switch off N-Band of my AVM Fritz!Box router (operating in 801.11b-g ONLY) the problem disappears. If connected to a Time Capsule on 802.11n: no problem.

    Seems to me it's Apple 802.11n in Lion causing the problem, and maybe only in certain Airport cards.

    Hope this helps, seen no Apple fix yet.

  • by iFinFan,

    iFinFan iFinFan Jan 4, 2012 2:50 AM in response to jeroen184
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    Jan 4, 2012 2:50 AM in response to jeroen184

    Hi,

     

    I bought new iMac 21" few days ago, but it still had Snow Leopard. Have same issues, wifi keeps dropping every 5-15 minutes even though the airport icon on the top show all ok.

     

    I tried all the thing mentioned in this thread and many other, nothing has worked.

     

    Usually can connect back just by clicking home network again (even though it shows I am connected already), after few seconds starts to work.

     

    Now today I made a simple thing - turn off my computer, unplug the modem/router (I mean really unplug from the wall, not just switch off). Then turn on computer, put power back to router and everything has been fine for few hours already. I have no idea how permanent this solution is, but if that problem comes back I will just nicely carry this **** machine back to shop (had 30 days return guarantee without needing to explain any reason for return)

     

    Looks good at the moment, but never know....

  • by jeroen184,

    jeroen184 jeroen184 Jan 4, 2012 3:08 AM in response to iFinFan
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    Jan 4, 2012 3:08 AM in response to iFinFan

    Hi,

     

    That weirds me out, all complaints are on Lion!

     

    Can you check one thing, in system profiler, whether the Airport card has Atheros, and the 802.11 Family has 4.0.x or so? Somehere in Discussions I recall an issue with this chipset and the 4.0 driver, which you are NOT supposed to have instaleld in SL.

     

    Did you disable n-band in your router? Unplugging it daily seems settings related, but quite annoying mi guess.

     

    Good luck!

  • by iFinFan,

    iFinFan iFinFan Jan 4, 2012 3:20 AM in response to jeroen184
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    Jan 4, 2012 3:20 AM in response to jeroen184

    Ok, I am faaaar away from being expert in these things and all the terms and technic but here's what I can tell - hopefully they are what you meant + some other info - if not the ones you meant - you can of course ask again:

     

    Version 10.6.8

     

    Card Type:    AirPort Extreme  (0x168C, 0x9A)

      Firmware Version:    Atheros 9380: 4.0.35.3

      Locale:    ETSI

      Country Code:    FI

     

    Current Network Information:

      PHY Mode:    802.11n

      Channel:    1

      Country Code:    FI

      Network Type:    Infrastructure

      Security:    WPA2 Personal

      Signal / Noise:    -44 dBm / -102 dBm

      Transmit Rate:    144

      MCS Index:    15

     

    Firewall Settings:

     

      Mode:    Allow all incoming connections

      Firewall Logging:    No

      Stealth Mode:    No

  • by iFinFan,

    iFinFan iFinFan Jan 4, 2012 3:21 AM in response to iFinFan
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    Jan 4, 2012 3:21 AM in response to iFinFan

    By the way... after router poweroff and restart, now country code is FI - it used to be before ES

  • by iFinFan,

    iFinFan iFinFan Jan 4, 2012 3:44 AM in response to iFinFan
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    Jan 4, 2012 3:44 AM in response to iFinFan

    Dropped again 5 hours of use. This piece of ---- is going back to store.

  • by jeroen184,

    jeroen184 jeroen184 Jan 4, 2012 3:58 AM in response to iFinFan
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    Jan 4, 2012 3:58 AM in response to iFinFan

    Please read this (reposting) from Joao in Portugal:

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3394498?tstart=0 and

    http://rys.pixeltards.com/2011/09/04/osx-lion-wifi.html

     

    Apple will not confirm if you call them! Nor did my ISP!

     

    You have the affected chipset. See, my MacBook shows a Broadcom set and IO80211 family 3.2. The bad one should read Atheros (which you have) and IO80211 family 4.0.x (which is from Lion) or so. That combo is affected, somehow. In my case disabling N-Band in the WiFi router itself remedies the problem, can't tell you why.

     

    Software Versions:

      Menu Extra:    6.2.2 (622.2)

      configd plug-in:    6.2.5 (625.6)

      System Profiler:    6.0.1 (601.1)

      Network Preference:    6.2.2 (622.2)

      AirPort Utility:    5.5.3 (553.20)

      IO80211 Family:    3.2 (320.1)

      Interfaces:

    en1:

      Card Type:    AirPort Extreme  (0x14E4, 0xD6)

      Firmware Version:    Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 5.100.198.104.5)

      Locale:    ETSI

      Country Code:    NL

      Supported PHY Modes:    802.11 a/b/g/n

      Supported Channels:    1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 36, 40, 44, 48, 52, 56, 60, 64, 100, 104, 108, 112, 116, 120, 124, 128, 132, 136, 140

      Wake On Wireless:    Supported

      Status:    Connected

      Current Network Information:

     

    Do you have IO80211 family 4, then read the linked files, and see if you want to try. The rest of my Mac is fine, but this issue is indeed horrible. Best of luck!

  • by iFinFan,

    iFinFan iFinFan Jan 4, 2012 4:32 AM in response to jeroen184
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    Jan 4, 2012 4:32 AM in response to jeroen184

    Since I have a chance to return this Mac to store anyway until end of this month, I will. They have now ran out of Macs at the moment, but should have brand new ones soon. So I'll just get a new one then and hope it has everything ok with it already and no need to have any extra hassle. Meanwhile just have to endure this problem.

     

    Thanks for that link - I hadnt seen that before - I will save it  just in case if need at some point

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