Currently Being ModeratedJan 22, 2012 8:04 PM (in response to Thomas Hillier)
I think you are the 500th person to use that line. There is nothing wrong with Lion. Take a look at your computer and the way you use it and maintain it. Over 6 million users can't be wrong compared to a few hundred around the forums. Next you will be saying that Lion is Apples Vista! lol
Currently Being ModeratedJan 23, 2012 12:27 AM (in response to mulligans missus)
New €2000 iMac that does very little save a bit of iTunes and internet...
Many hours now spent with AppleCare who have found no solutions to the problems I have encountered. I have been a Mac user since stating university in 1993 and have NEVER seen any problems like this before.
I certainly don't claim to know everthing about Macs but after nearly 20 years following Apple evolution I think there's a good chance that my experience and the time I have spent with Apple people should have ironed out the bugs.
This is NOT the case and I will be uninstalling Lion for the third time today, again with the help of AppleCare.
Talking of 'use' I feel my computer is now a pain to use, and as for 'maintenance' if the AppleCare professionals don't have the answers then I don't know where I can find them...
Up until now the thing I had always liked about my Apple computers was the fact that they 'just worked'. I do not wish to spend hours messing about with them. I am a simple user not a computer boffin.
My experience since installing Lion last August has been simply dreadful.
As for there being 'nothing wrong with Lion'. I don't know how anyone can say that. It certainly is not the view I have understood while on the phone to AppleCare who tell me that no OS is perfect.
I can certainly say that for me this one has been considerably more problematic than any other.
You have your experience and that's fine.
Mine is what it is also and exists and is valid.
After nigh-on two decades of brand loyalty Lion has made me wonder what the competition is doing...
I think Apple needs to heed this alarm call. I am not alone!
Currently Being ModeratedJan 23, 2012 3:23 AM (in response to Thomas Hillier)
The competition will be going in pretty much the same direction. And installing and uninstalling Lion three times? That is extremely excessive and I would think that downgrading once would be sufficient. Are you wiping your disc clean each time? If not you may just be carrying over pre-existing problems. If so you are placing excessive demand on your hard drive.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 23, 2012 6:14 AM (in response to mulligans missus)
Listen, thanks for taking an interest and making suggestions.
I agree about it being excessive.
A machine that's capable of so much stifled my such a seemingly simple problem...
I think we can safely say Lion really does have a major wifi issue.
One only has to look at the forums that are awash with users complaining about it.
After spending literally whole half days working on this with second-tier AppleCare supervisors and still no solution in sight, I felt a responsibility to share my experience of the excessive time spent on the problem.
I have no idea if the disk is wiped clean every time. I simply follow the stumped professionals' instructions every time and send them info with DataCapture etc etc etc and all to no avail.
I used to use Frontrow quite often with Snow Leopard and had found a replacement solution with the Remote app on my iPhone. Only trouble is that with my computer steadfastly refusing to hold onto the wifi connection for more than a couple of minutes at a time it is rendered about as useful as a chocolate teapot.
And no: it wouldn't be inaccurate for me to compare this disastrous OS with Vista.
Add to that the fact that Apple seems to be dodging the issue and you get 19-year customers looking at the competition!
Currently Being ModeratedJan 23, 2012 7:35 AM (in response to Thomas Hillier)
Alright folks I know we are all extremely frustrated with the WIFI problems Lion is giving us.
This is the cheapest monetary solution(less than $10) I am using myself that I posted earlier. It works just fine and your wireless problems are handled. It's better than nothing at this point. My time is precious to me rather than spending coutless hours scouring the web for solutions and trying them all out.
my solution till an actual fix from apple comes.
read the support page look for Tony for link for mac osx and download the proper files. Now the device works through 3rd party app which works wonderfully. Its a bit inconveniant after spending $1200+ dollars on a macbook but still better than going back to windows.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 23, 2012 7:47 AM (in response to rpd118)
It did eliminate the problem it for me. The funny thing is since I purchased it and and a new dual band router now my wifi seems to be working. Just to test the new router I turned my wifi back on and it's been going strong for 3 days now. Go figure. Right now the Netgear is a backup just in case.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 23, 2012 8:42 AM (in response to lrogersinlv)
I think it's the speed of your WiFi-connection. If I am on school (very fast network) I have no problems. But when I'm at home (slow network), the WiFi-connection turns off and if I click on the WiFi menubar-icon it says No network selected.
Apple come please with a update!
Currently Being ModeratedJan 23, 2012 8:49 AM (in response to Tony850)
My thanks to you and cspearman for the information.
Just out of curiosity, why does this fix the problem? Does this supply a steady connection to the iMac, perhaps bypassing Airport network searches?
In any case, I ordered one.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 23, 2012 8:51 AM (in response to jvant)
More likely Lion.
14698 kbit/s down & 1022 kbit/s here which works fine with 10.6 and disconnects and (slowly) reconnects constantly with 10.7
Doesn't happen on iPhones or laptops or when I go back to 10.6
Make your own conlusions...
Currently Being ModeratedJan 23, 2012 11:28 AM (in response to mulligans missus)
I don't think that hundreds of users can be wrong.... there is something wrong with Lion, I just update 3 days ago, and the nightmare started.... Just came to mac one year ago, and have been very satisfied, bought iphone, ipad, and have convince many friends to turn into mac.... but this problem with Lion is horrible, every time a want to work again, after some hours, have to fight trying to find my network,,,, it does find like 25 networks from my neighbors, but not mine,,, this is a nightmare....
Currently Being ModeratedJan 23, 2012 3:08 PM (in response to mulligans missus)
Lion is indeed Apple's Vista.
I aqm not a geek, just a business person who likes his system to work,.
For six months I ran SL and my iMac ran flawlessly
Upgrade to Lion and I have daily - if not hourly - frustration.
As one who runs an editing business over the internet this is affecting my business.
Bottom line is that Apple is no better than Windows. At least now.
I am waiting for Apple to fix the problem and in the meantime I have just bought a new PC laptop and will hold off buying further Apple machines.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 23, 2012 3:26 PM (in response to rpd118)
it bypasses Apples wifi and uses an external version. It my case the Netgear adapter is the wifi connection and bridge, and I'm running ethernet from the adapter so hardwired from an wireless bridge. I have since bought a new router also and I have able to connect with the need of the Netgear adapter (go figure). 4 days no one drop.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 23, 2012 3:39 PM (in response to lrogersinlv)
i tried running a pc and had no problems with wi fi dropping out i checked the speed of broadband while running this then i reconnected my imac and tested the speed and it was the same for both machines .what fixed the issue in my case was resetting the pram and the smc i had to do this a couple of times to get the dross out its has been working fine here since no dropping out at all cheers the lion is roaring here
Currently Being ModeratedJan 23, 2012 4:15 PM (in response to suitess)
I am no technical expert but I purchased a new MBP in November, took it home and my wifi has been trouble free from that moment onwards, my previous MPB which I upgraded from SL to Lion required a few minor adjustments mainly clearing out the various unused public wifi spots from the list and ensuring my router was at the top of the list that remained. It is not all doom and gloom :-)
Currently Being ModeratedJan 23, 2012 5:04 PM (in response to The creative genie)
I have 3 MBPs, one IBM and one iMac running off of our ATT U-Verse connection. Only my 17" MBP 2.8 GHz is having this problem. I upgraded all of the other Macs to LION with no problem. This makes me wonder if the problem with my laptop has to do with some application I may be running that is causing a drain to the signal. ALL of the other Macs are doing fine - all using LION WiFi.
Now, I'm not a technocrat, but I am logical. I've used Macs since 1983, so I am a loyal supporter. But this is annoying as ****, and I think Apple is dragging its heels.
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