Apple Mail removed bounce functionality?

Yes the bounce is gone...

Hi,

Until Apple relents and restores the functionality (like they will actually listen to us - HA!), you can download and use the free AppleScript, "Bounce Mail 1.0"

( << http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Internet-Utilities/Bounce-Mail.shtml>>)

Just add a rule iin Mail > Preferences > Rules that tells Mail: If Junk Mail then call/apply Applescript > Bounce Mail 10.

Mark any email Junk, control click on it and Apply Rule.

That make sense?

I have already tried it and works perfectly.

Why did they take away bounce??? I love bounce!!!

Why did they take away bounce??? I love bounce!!!

To some, bounce seemed a little “sneaky”.

I solved the problem by installing Mail 4.0. Bounce works perfectly now.

Screw this. I was an OS X Lion developer but I assumed Bounce would be added back.

Back to Snow Leopard. BOUNCE WAS A BETTER FEATURE THAN MISSION CONTROL OR LAUNCHPAD.

Looks like OS X Lion isn't done baking yet....

Please send feedback to Apple is you want this feature back. I never even knew it existed. I would be curious to see if it really worked or if spammers had figured out it wasn't a real bounce. I inspected headers form my 10.6.8 machine and I could tell it wasn't a real bounce, but only because I know the servers involved. I would be interested to learn about any discussions of the "sneakiness" and efficacy of the now-departed Bounce feature.

For me, BOUNCE is for those annoying people who get their friends or relatives email address wrong and keep sending me their emails intended for family members or friends. For the last 5 years I have politely asked that my email address be removed from soccer mom's address books because I keep getting their practise schedules. When I could BOUNCE the email, they would get the hint and double check the email address.

There is always a moral dillema when faced with job interview appointment emails, or emails asking if I can assist coaching for Wednesday... Bouncing the email would let the sender know that the email didn't get through. Without BOUNCE, my options are to either sit down and compose polite emails asking them to get the address right, OR get nasty and just cancel job interviews, and generally mess with their lives... I need BOUNCE back.

Please, never bounce spam. Most spam has forged 'From' addresses so all you are doing is sending yet more spam to totally innocent people (who are porbably already getting a lot of bounces because of this) and making a bad situation worse. Even if the 'From' address is genuine, I very much doubt any spammer is going to remove your address from a huge list (they certainly would get a lot of bounced from actually dead addresses) - and in any case they can probably tell it's not a genuine bounce easily enough, so now you've just confirmed that your address works. Don't bounce it - just delete and forget.

I don't bounce spam. They usually bounce back to me anyways. There are legitimate uses of BOUNCE though, and it was the one feature that kept me using MAIL instead of Thunderbird or something else.

You should not bounce -- see:

http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3498

At its best it will only validate that your address was real.

Ernie

I think you misread that.

a)

"The Bounce feature may not work with some email service providers, and may actually indicate to the originator that your email address is valid."

it's talking about real spam - not mistaken emails. Yes, spammers might be able to tell it's a fake bounce thus validating your email,

and b)

"Use Mail's built-in Junk filtering, which can both be set automatically, or be set to learn as you receive mail messages. For more information, see Mac 101: Mail.

If you use MobileMe, you can use an email alias. This feature can allow you to purchase items online with an additional email address that protects you from receiving unsolicited mail messages. See MobileMe: About email aliases."

Neither of these discuss people who email you thinking you are someone else. If polite emails don't work, and I don't want to be rude, I still want to bounce the messages. To most people a bounced message is a sure sign they typed the email address incorrectly.

Email aliases are especially dumb because to do the job as advertised you would have to create an alias, use it, and destroy it when its purpose is accomplished. When you free up an alias, it must be free for anyone else to use (or else Apple would quickly run out of aliases). SO - you could possibly get other people's email in the future. Or they yours. And talk about hassle... I'd rather just deal with the junk mail with a filter.

Just an FYI -- Highly recommend the Apple Mail Plug-in, Spamseive for eliminating spam. It's been a life-saver. And it's been updated for Lion and works flawlessly.

Sorry, but have not misread anything, and this has been discussed many times on these forums. Not many have ever thought of it as a tool to react to a mistaken email, either. I have never gotten a bounce for that reason from anyone either.

Ernie

" I have never gotten a bounce for that reason from anyone either."

How do you know?