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  • 15. Re: Lion installed but shutdown is much longer now? Ideas?
    Yggdrasill Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Extra boot files means extra boot time, ok I can admit this.

    But.

     

    Here we are speaking about shutdown and not start up.

    And if the first boot is slow, or even the second and the third, it's normal. I can figure out the OS needs to update data, create caches, make some basic configuration.

    But seriously, after the ten reboot do you find it's normal ?

     

    I'm not speaking about 30 or 40 seconds more, which should be boring but acceptable.

    It's may be not a reference for anybody but yesterday I had the time to ligh a cigaret, smoke it and drop it between the shutdown and the Mac totally powered off. With no filevault activated or anything.


    This said, I have to admit I just repaired permissions, check disk and launch automated tasks proposed by Onyx (except clearing caches,...) and this reboot tooks me exactly 2min31.
    Without opening last session windows and nothing launched at boot.

    Just boot, start restart, launch the chrono, confirm and wait for the login window.

    So it's already much better.

    But I find it kinda weird this need to repair permissions after a "clean" install.

    (Installation of OS X Server failed during the migration, so I restore it at the next boot process)

  • 16. Re: Lion installed but shutdown is much longer now? Ideas?
    Izzybee914 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I too have experienced this same problem with Lion after the install from download. After reinstalling Lion from the Disc that I did burn, start up had improved but shut down still seemed slow with the spinning wheel. My Snow Leopard experienced a similar concern at one point in time after I did an erase of free space. The fix for that was to Run the command in Terminal:   sudo chown root:admin /     I tried this Yesterday with Lion and it now shuts down in under 8 seconds with no more spinning wheel. This worked for Me.

  • 17. Re: Lion installed but shutdown is much longer now? Ideas?
    jboyzh Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Found a fix that worked here:

     

    I've had a Huawei USB internet stick installed a year or so ago I don't use any more, but Lion install obviously migrated the obviously not 100% compatible Huawei StartupItems which caused the slow down in my case.

     

    Deleted the following folders: Mac HD/Library/StartupItems/NWNetMgr and /HWPortDetect, password necessary. After a reboot, shutdown went to almost instant (a second or so w/ SSD).

     

    If you know what you do, you might check, and eventually delete (save a copy before deleting in case you need the files again or break something) the entries in Library/StartupItems, /LaunchAgents, /LaunchDaemons, plus the same folders at User/Library and see if it fixes slow shutdown.

  • 18. Re: Lion installed but shutdown is much longer now? Ideas?
    IrenaB Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    See also here: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3194296?start=0&tstart=0

     

    Thank you, jboyzh. I also had the long shutdown problem and, yes, one of the applications I had installed from SL times, was related to Huawei USB modem. When I did Lion clean install and reinstalled all my apps, everything was good with shutdown untill this. But, as it required to install also Java Runtime, I am not sure if the long shutdown was caused by this app itself (and those Library/StartupItems it created) or by Java.

  • 19. Re: Lion installed but shutdown is much longer now? Ideas?
    jboyzh Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks IrenaB, I've also had to install the most recent Java Runtime in the context of other software. Yet Java doesn't seem to cause shutdown problems any longer without the mentioned, older and possibly incompatible, Huawei modem stick software.

  • 20. Re: Lion installed but shutdown is much longer now? Ideas?
    IrenaB Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Yes, jboyzh, now it is clear, the long shutdown in my case was related to Huawei USM modem (and Macintosh HD/Library/StartupItems), NOT THE JAVA.

    Just einstalled Java again - and the shutdown remains instant. Previously installed Java together with the Huawei Mobile Partner app which required to do - and the shutdown was noticeably prolonged (this caused mis-suspision against Java). Obviously, the long shutdown was not related to Java itself, but to the modem.
    Thank you for the reference.

     

    SORRY FOR BLAMING JAVA.

  • 21. Re: Lion installed but shutdown is much longer now? Ideas?
    woodmeister50 Level 4 Level 4 (3,745 points)

    Shutdown time is dramaticly increased in Lion.  But,

    going from 10.6.7 to 10.6.8 also increased shutdown

    dramaticly.  This is evident on all ny computers I

    installed Lion on.

  • 22. Re: Lion installed but shutdown is much longer now? Ideas?
    timo.runge Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)

    I've got exactly the same problem with a very slow shutdown. After deleting and uninstalling the Huawei USB drivers (StartUp items and deleted the hw_* folder under /usr/local) the shutdown was very fast again.

    Thanks!

  • 23. Re: Lion installed but shutdown is much longer now? Ideas?
    Jorglund Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I did a clean install of lion and now it shut down in aprox 2 sec

    I tried to remove my Option Icon 505 driver for GSM broadband but it did not help, even some apps but no good...

    Clean install was the trick.

    ..Jorgen

  • 24. Re: Lion installed but shutdown is much longer now? Ideas?
    brandonmm Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    did you use migration assistant for your apps, etc. after doing a full install or did you re-install your apps one-by-one? reason i'm asking, i also did a clean install but used migration assistant for my apps, data, settings afterwards. the shutdown time did improve but it was not 2 seconds like yours. mine takes around 6 to 8 seconds to shutdown. that's good for me but if it can be improved that would be even better. thanks.

  • 25. Re: Lion installed but shutdown is much longer now? Ideas?
    Jorglund Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I did do a clean install, reinstalled all apps but used mobile me to resync settings etc.

    Maybe 2 sec was little bragging but it is less then 5 sec anyway.

    I do uncheck the "save windows..." checkbox at shutdown.

    My Mac is an MB Pro late 2010 with ssd and 8 gb Ram

    .. Jorgen

  • 26. Re: Lion installed but shutdown is much longer now? Ideas?
    Paul Muad'dib Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    jboyzh wrote:

    If you know what you do, you might check, and eventually delete (save a copy before deleting in case you need the files again or break something) the entries in Library/StartupItems, /LaunchAgents, /LaunchDaemons, plus the same folders at User/Library and see if it fixes slow shutdown.

     

    After deleting some old files from LaunchDeamons, my mini now shut down instantly. Great. I hope this will hold on. I will test it on my Mac pro too.

  • 27. Re: Lion installed but shutdown is much longer now? Ideas?
    Paul Muad'dib Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Paul Muad'dib wrote:

    After deleting some old files from LaunchDeamons, my mini now shut down instantly. Great. I hope this will hold on. I will test it on my Mac pro too.

     

    Same on the Mac pro. Shutdown is much faster now. Not so fast as the mini, because of the 4 installed Harddrives.

  • 28. Re: Lion installed but shutdown is much longer now? Ideas?
    joelyeow Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I had the same problem after upgrading os x snow leopard to os x lion on my mac book air (128gb, 2gb ram). Shutdown prior to the upgrade was 3secs. after upgrading to os x lion, it went up to 13-15secs.

     

    Finally decided to reformat and reinstall my mba today. cleared the os partition, reinstalled os x snow leopard using the usb thumbdrive that came with the mba, updated to 10.6.8 using software update (to get appstore), downloaded and installed os x lion, reinstalled all my apps (including MS office 2011 and restored outlook..etc).

     

    My shutdown now takes 2 secs.

     

    Couldn't take the 13-15secs. which was why i got a mac in the first place.

     

    Hope this helps. Apparently upgrading from a clean os x snow leopard is the way to go.

  • 29. Re: Lion installed but shutdown is much longer now? Ideas?
    jhowlin Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I've noticed Lion requires many more processes running than snow leopard, so it must just take more time to shut them all down. For instance, according to Activity Monitor, when I would boot snow leopard, and before I launched any apps, i would have approx. 50 processes running. Now there are close to 80. Launch pad, mission control, versions, push notifications, spelling corrector, resume windows -- all these new features require new processes. I think apple is trying to take advantage of users excess resources and run more things in the background to provide a faster, better user experience in the foreground. I've read that if you close an app, it may continue to run that app's processes in the background in case you relauch the app, so that it starts faster, but I haven't seen this in action yet.

     

    I also find it takes longer to sleep when I close the lid.