Unable to search network drives with Lion...

I don't think anyone has EVER disputed the practices of Microsoft. Only the shareholders find the employed practices to be copacetic. Just like the oil companies shareholders are the only persons who don't find the exorbiant gas prices to be offensive. In referance to this thread, just like Microsoft's and Big Oil's business practices, there is nothing anyone can really do. Mac addicts will not give up thier macs. Businesses will not give up the established compatibility and hotfixes of Windows/Office. NOONE is going to give up driving.

Gone are the days where pickets and protests had any impact on how folks did business. Noone really cares anymore about that sort of thing as long as there is internet access and updates on Benifer and Bradjolina.

That is just to say that for all of any of our bluster, none of us are going to change what we are doing. We picked our macs for a reason(mine was curiosity - I will say my unit is neat, but it's not really brought anything to the table for me...yes, it was a waste of money, no, i cannot get my money back, so yes, yes, yes....I am going to have to keep my mac - I won't buy another, nor will I encourage macs for my friends and family - unless they are photographers or graphic artists that are MAKING MONEY with thier computers).

We are stuck with them. Without radical action, we are stuck with Mac and dealing with whatever Mac wants us to deal with.

Wait... Graphic artists make MONEY with computers? I can say its a tool of my trade but I don't make money per say. No real money, stop wall street money. It's like a pain brush to an artist or a pair of sneakers for lebron.

Yah! I would suggest a mac for my Goddaughter(she does marketing and graphic artsy stuff...knows that red is ffdd and other stuff like that....) so she could use it for her business. I think that Macs process and understand color better than regular pc's. That is why I would suggest it for photogs as well. My cousin is a photographer and raves on about what Macs bring to the table when working with pics. He is, however, mucho dismayed about the search capabilities. He runs a windows server at home and has over 2tb of videos and pics, so a limited search ability would deeply hinder his ability to work...

Throw in that he would need to search for metadata and well......you can imagine.

We have two 16tb servers that until last week I couldn't search fast or effiently. We actually though about going back to the Mac server. It's a bold stand by apple. These are the growing pains.

I find the business plan is different than what I would have done

Mac is far superior in arty stuff (lol) and in the package design we do, it's invaluable. Like you said, the photography interface with programs like capture one are incredible. But hey, if I wanted to run a spread sheet (ho hum) I go to a pc.

The Internet is the same on both. MAybe a slight edge Mac.

I could NOT do without my iTunes tho

Funny, even with 10.7.3, I still get NOTHING when I run a search on our network drive. And it's beyond maddening. As the sole Mac user in a Windows based legal practice, I am quickly losing credibility for continuing with Mac.

Rick,

We have more than a few Macaddicts in my workplace, but the only mac(and it may be gone now) was down in CSSU(Crime Scene Search Unit) and primarily used to draw...well...crime scenes. We used to have a guy in our print shop that used a mac, but he retired years ago and noone can tell where his equipment went...I assume he took it with him...

Our CAD users use pc's...and to the best of my knowledge there are no macs on our network. I have a bit of a rep for tinkering, so folks tend to not let me near any equipment that remotely looks interesting.

It's hard being a standout...I can imagine multiple scenarios where you would tell your co-workers of your superior device and then they ask you to bring up a document and your search just stalls out....THEN to add insult to injury, the low man out that got stuck with the only Pentium 3 in the office searches for the same document and has it seconds. While playing freecell. That would have to sting...

Hi Mojo66...

your message was edited by ... Apple 😉 Interesting 😉

!! That means Apple IS listening !!

The IT department of my current oreganization is very big and has several thousand users. They officially support Mac, Linux/Unix and Win. The hotline can handle all three OS's. They are very pragmatic, modern and open minded. But in this searching-issue case they told me to copy everything on a local hard disk and use the NAS servers as a backup, which is not always possible for different reasons.

They do have AFP based servers, but just for the mac versions of software. Unfortunately, they do not offer file servers based on AFP. They explained me once why... but that was too much IT talk and unfortunately beyond my IT capabilities. Maybe I should propose them the extremeZ-IP solution.

I am now in the process entering another big organization, who told me right away "No Macs, period!". What can I do !? I am not in any position of telling them stop giving MS more $....

One of the main/actual points of this thread is that searching DID work with SL and now it does not anymore. And as far as I know there is no official and reasonable explanation WHY. Just saying there is a different smb does not really sound very reasonable to most of us, in particular, when all other access such as mapping drives is easily feasible.

Hi Macobs30, as I wrote before, the search also does not work on other drives (NTSF), not only SMB. Therefore, I would say that the problem is somewhere deeper in the system, than in the SMBX. Perhaps that's also the reason why it is not yet fixed even in 10.7.3

Hi pepa_u, sorry... I did not intend to go into to much detail again, since this thread is going in circles around an issue that nobody can really explain. I am sure there is some workaround but it is probably something that would open a backdoor to OS X and thus not discussed here in this forum...

Acutally, has anybody tried to install Samba from Macports or Fink, mount the SMB drives this way and try the search? What about searching NTFS drives (or other) mounted using NTFS-3G? Does it work or not? Why searching FAT disks works OK?

Apparently lion has broken compatibility with macfuse/ntfs-3g so I can't test the search thus. There are other commercial solutions for mounting ntfs drives but I am not prepared to spent money to debug this. I will at some point mount the network drive via samba from macports or fink and get back to you on the search.

I am conveinced too by now as you say that the problem cannot rest solely on smbx...

ps. on a sidenote apparently the email notification system of the support site is broken too in my case (I opted to stop being notified because I was frustrated enough with the problem to not have to argue with apologists here as well...) ...I have selected no to everything and I still get notified...

I've had this issue for ages. I think going back to 10.5 or later.

Currently Mac Pro 10.6.8 can only occasionally find files on XServe 10.6.8. (AFP) I seem to remember seeing the files disappear from the finder search while I initially had results after reindex.

Just came acorss this issue again. I was hoping it was resolved once all machines in the office were up to 10.6.8. Previously Xserve was 10.5.x and client machines 10.6.x.

Too bad. This is really sorry support from Apple on this one. Been using EasyFind for a couple of years, but it is not my prefered workflow and is slower than the Finder.

BUMMER.

EDIT: Just went back and did some testing. If I can find a document on the XServe from my Mac Pro using the Finder, after I open it on the Mac Pro and close it WITHOUT saving, and close the FInder window and re-open it, it can't be found by the Finder on the Mac Pro or the XServe.

Basically, some how the Mac Pro is saying do not show in index if this has been opened by Mac Pro.

Did the OP ever get a resolution from Apple? I couldn't find the reply in this forum.

FileZilla can search FTP servers. Transmit can't, I contacted their support to confirm.

Apple really ***** the big one for not including a way to search FTP servers through Finder. Works without any issue using 10.5 and 10.6 — what gives Apple?

I love you man!. This app is rockin good! WOW, blows away the Finder. I am going back to Lion 🙂 🙂. Well I will test first, got two partitions on the mac right now, 10.6 and 10.7.

Thanks a million Evan, very very helpful!

Yo Mojo

Who cares about the competition. I connect to servers all day long both local and remote and I absolutely 100% need to search those servers in the event my manual navigation was misguided. So I need search and the Finder works as expected against all these servers in 10.6 and 10.5 but not 10.7!

I am the one mac head, I know a bit too much and feel personally hurt when other put down the mac and this is but one more nail in the mac's coffin as far as the IT department is concerned. Well, they are more open then most and let us use what we want but it's embarrasing.

Macs are not cheaper then PCsand when they can't perform something so seemingly simple to most other users, it's a joke.

I'm a long time mac user (since 87) and devoted to the platform but this is just disgusting. I've had to revert to 10.6 but I may have found a free solution — EasyFind, get it from the Mac AppStore.

Long live the mac