Unable to search network drives with Lion...
After installing Lion, I have found I am unable to search network drives (Windows network) like I used with Snow Leopard. Any suggestions?
iMac, Mac OS X (10.7)
After installing Lion, I have found I am unable to search network drives (Windows network) like I used with Snow Leopard. Any suggestions?
iMac, Mac OS X (10.7)
I have had nothing but trouble tryng to search my NAS'
Nothing works consistantly, sure when you know where the file is and you mess around long enough it will find it but always lets you down when you need it the most. As I add more NAS and they get bigger, having an efective search is a must.
I have given up on spotlite its absolute crud, I simply can't rely on it to find my stuff. I now use a small app called easy find which finds my files in a blink of an eye.
This reminds me of the old Amiga days, when the OS had nothing in it, and was all 3rd party programs.
Mountain Lion (which I use) is the same, looks like they used the same buggy code from that.
As a funny side note - running windows in a VM finds files on the NAS ok,
PS.
And its the same for me no matter what system is used SMB or AFP - Search NAS = heart ache !
Ziggy
Sorry - should have mentioned - these are direct wired rather than NAS. NAS on my macs have always been an issue.
Lion on the Retina has been a nightmare and going to do a clean install again - recommended by the Genius at the Apple Store (which takes about 2 days with all my video software) - not sure if I should go Mountain Lion - but I do not want to reward Apple by buying a newer product because their existing product cannot do the job as advertised. This is the same reason why i dont buy anymore Microsft products...
I will get back onto this post if i have any answers when I try my NAS.
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Mojo
Valid point re the $16. If the 'Genious' couldnt resolve the problems on an OS he should have over a year's experience with - i would not be sure how he would go on a new OS. (he even took the MBP out back to get more advice).
From my experience with the number of apps i run on my macs, each OS upgrade brakes things -as i use it in the field - i cannot afford to not have it working. I have Snow Leapard on my desktop and it is rock solid. I have lots of legacy apps (eg Sorenson, VMWare with an old version of Windows etc) that i still need to work (and dont work on Lion even). Using a new OS - until it is tested by the community in the video business is always a mistake.
But yes - $16 is nothing - the time to do a proper clean install of all my apps is almost the cost of the computer. I will wait to see the community feedback on Mtn Lion. The community do the testing now - like Windows - in the old days Apple used to test their software.
Not to be rude, but if you had read my post not 2 before your post you would know that Mountain Lion does *NOT* fix this issue. Search is crap on a non internal Hard drive using Lion & Mountain Lion.
You Said "The community do the testing now - like Windows - in the old days Apple used to test their software."
Apple select various people of various skills to beta test their software. The problem is sometimes Apple have hidden agendas and simply do not act upon what the testers tell them. Sometimes they can't reproduce the bug.
Other times a bug is found to late to fix because of promised launch dates, I would rather Apple be late than launch buggy code - but then again I am errr let me think - yep thats it NO ONE !! lol.
Mojo - Glad ML did solve your issue. My external drives were not NAS - so found ways around the search function. I am having issues with Quicktime 7, legacy CODECs, random glitches - but that is a post for another forum.
Cheers.
The command mdutil /Volumes/Shared -i on - has nothing to do with Mountain Lion, and its not a solution its a Kludge at best.
Take a look here http://dockthirteen.wordpress.com/2011/08/24/spotlight-index-broken-on-os-x-lion /
Search in Lion and Mountain Lion is broken, all you have done is applied a tempory solution. You may as well installed the free app easy find from the MAS and mark is a solved lol
This may work for a while, but if I log out or restart, this goes away. I hate that even in ML I still can't search my NAS. Ridiculous.
BTW, I'm subscribed to this discussion. When I get an email from Apple after someone posts here, it tells me
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I click on that link and it takes me to the sign in page. I sign in and it doesn't take me, as one might expect, to this discussion but to the main Discussions page. It's ridiculous too. Why doesn't the sign in take me to the very discussion I want to reply to?
This may work for a while, but if I log out or restart, this goes away. I hate that even in ML I still can't search my NAS. Ridiculous.
BTW, I'm subscribed to this discussion. When I get an email from Apple after someone posts here, it tells me
When I have an opportunity I will restart my mac to verify your experience. I will test it by searching first and noting the results of the search. Then I will restart followed by the same search.
I will report back but I won't test until tomorrow.
Well yes your quite correct, although I feel your splitting hairs, the point I was trying to make is the fact that search is broken, and Mountain Lion does not fix this unlike what Mojo66 claims.
The thread originally was about Lion, so the link does pertain to the spirit of the thread.
The Free App 'Easy Find" works a treat for me every time and I recomend people install and use that as a get you going solution, as you know were on 10.8 and its still not fixed, and I don't know if Apple are even working on a fix, I think they must be aware of the problem after this amount of time.
I have to add that in addition to this not staying active after reboot/log out, it also just doesn't work at all. The command completes, but spotlight continues NOT to search my NAS. Simply doesn't show up, even though it's listed in the /Volumes folder.
Remember, after using the said command, sudo mdutil -i on you SHOULD NOT change the name of the volume you ran this command against because it is stored locally and refers back to it.
Also, you should click the spotlight icon and you should observer the "Indexing (name of drive)" and the barber pole indicating the index.
You can also that your drive is indexing by running this command:
lsof | grep /Volumes/
If you repeat the lsof command every now and again you will find that mdworker is accessing the volume that is being indexed.
PS I never expoerienced this issue in Snow Leopard at all and I was connected to about 100 different remote servers and search always worked there. I don't know what Apple changed in 10.7 and 10.8 (if it was or is affected)
Hope this helps.
The process that "LostAccount" is reporting does not work for me.
After sudo mdutil -i on /Volumes/Data, the barber pole does not appear on the spotlight menu item, and "lsof | grep /Volumes/" does not list mdworker.
Too bad.. :-(
I would be very interested in knowing if other people can report if 10.8.1 works in this case. For me, too, if it does, that's a good enough justification for me to buy it.
Thanks...
Just updated to 10.8.1 as well ... Spotlight is still NOT searching my NAS, or mounted NAS Volumes.
Maybe I'm missing somthing here?
Also mdutil fails as well:
sudo mdutil -i on /Volumes/<server>/<share>/
/Volumes/<server>/<share>:
Error: unable to perform operation. (-400)
Error: unknown indexing state.
Before 10.8.1 I could not use finder search, and now I can. The Spotlight search is another beast altogether--one I do not usually use. It is true that I can't just use a single search for everything on my network. But, for me, I know what computer and drive certain types of files are kept, so the ability to use Finder Search and a nifty app called Alfred (works like a powerful Spotlight Search) do seem to work just fine now. Also, as my network does not have a central NAS, I don't know if the .1 upgrade works for searches there.
Unable to search network drives with Lion...