Unable to search network drives with Lion...

just so you know Apple Inc....for one line of code you removed, my whole office....30+ potential lion users...are NOT upgrading

so if you want to drop money by the thousands...I know you dont care as you have more than...exxon was it...keep up this crap

I am having the same issue. I called Apple Care was on the phone for about half an hour, and looks like they are working on this, but we need this. I hate when in my office people can search Windows Explorer (Parallels) to find stuff and can't use Finder. Please Apple fix this and don't wait for 10.7.3

I don't know about THAT. It really has some nice features and stability. They just choose to not work with something, like they did with flash. Once Microsoft caves in to apple, things will get better.

You sir...I'm not even going to say it. "Once Microsoft caves...: ummm, sorry but CIFS and in general searching via SMB on connected network drives and/or NAS devices should be a STANDARD and not the exception...UNIX/Linux support these natively.

Hi Everyone,

Finally, I learned from someone, who knows OS X and Apple deep down, the origin of this and related issues (iCal invitations, smb volume access/mounting, Spotlight indexing, etc...). It is a real deep-down problem and not just something than can be solved with some tweeks on the Lion systems settings.

Apparently, the problem is NOT on the Apple side. But rather on the (MS) Server side, which the Mac has to connect to by SMB.

Already since a few years Apple has been working on their own SMB client and has been notifying the other OS and Server developers. Since the "others" ignored the enhanced security of Apple's own SMB, the communication between OS X Lion and especially MS Exchange 2010 Servers is strongly "affected", or better screwed up..

This has a severe impact on ALL applications, which need to communicate with the MS Exchange 2010 Servers such as iCal, Spotlight & Finder, Mail, even keychain when trying to save credentials for smb volumes. I have all these problems on my Macs and it is an Exchange 2010 Server issue - according to Apple, since they have been informing MS for a long time.

Now, the only thing Apple can - and will - do about it is to nicely keep asking MS to integrate support for the new and more secure Apple SMB client.

So I guess we all gotta wait... or try to rely on 3rd-party software... This is why Windows went down the hill.

A very poor business decision if this is true. Apple should remain focused on ensuring that its customers are satisfied with the products that it makes available to them.

This includes providing systems that integrate, communicate and operate with the vast number of platforms being used by those customers. Computers (unlike phones and music players) cannot operate in a microcosm, they need to interact diversely with other peripherals, technologies and systems.

Searching is a basic OS function, and as such, should remain operational and backwards compatible with systems that were previously supported. If Easyfind can do it, why not Spotlight?

Dropping support on the assumption that communication was provided (in advance) to other vendors - who for whatever reason, have not adapted the new protocols (if true), demonstrates an arrogance and a lack of concern for its own customers - who just want our OS to play nicely with the other technology we use and own.

It does not make sense to break your own OS functionality and upset your customers just for the sake of advancement (if that's what you call it).

The biggest disappointment, despite the numerous posts here, many calls to tech support (my own included), and ongoing cries for help and assistance; is the lack of official communication nor appropriate levels of response to this incident. My Applecare ticket was reported, escalated and then fell into a black hole. Poor customer service and wasted time and money from my perspective. Result = unhappy customer dissatisfied with product and subsequent support.

I for one, having owned and worked with macs right back to their beginning, will consider very seriously before purchasing another one or spending money on Applecare. I have been communicating my own feedback on my experience to my friends and colleagues in the IT industry, so that they can make informed decisions about whether Apple hardware (along with its Lion OS), and Applecare is the best choice for them.

If my systems cannot work together and provide the basics then they have no place in my future set-up.

When I called Applecare, I used exactly the same logic and arguments:

- SMB is a basic feature

- Exchange is out there, I cannot keep bothering my IT department

- Backwards compatibility

- Customer care & satisfaction

- Informing the users correctly

- 3rd party software works (Easy Find, Foxtrot, ...)

- Don't be so stubborn.

They disagreed in ALL points in regards to "Apple needs to fix it".

I work as well in a corporate environment and this is becoming unacceptable.

The issue surrounding SMB shares isn't entirely within Apple's Control. There is a big reason things worked one way with Snow Leopard and don't work the same way with Lion. The SAMBA development team switched from using GPLv2 to GPLv3 for their licensing. Unfortunately this action by the SAMBA team makes integrating SAMBA into Mac OS a non starter. Luckily, Apple was already internally developing their own SMB code to work with SMB shares. It is their code, rather than SAMBA that has been implemented into Lion. Overall, this is a very good thing as much of the SAMBA work isn't staying current with many of the changes that Microsoft has made to the SMB protocol and the surrounding architecture in their more recent releases.

That may be so, but that doesn't mean that omitting network searching by design is good thing. If only Apple would say something like: "we haven't gotten around to implementing network searching on SMB, WebDAV (yes it is not just SMB), and other network volumes but we are working on it for a future update of 10.7."

Unfortunately they are just saying something like "we know it doesn't work and it is by design, thank you and have good day."

Apple really has to get to back to its senses in the coming updates, because currently I'm not sure my next laptop will be a Mac.

@Cetuma:

This SMB issue is completely under Apple's control. The OS browses through the remote filesystem to build the Finder's tree view. So it "knows" each file's location. Every file is readalbe without any problems through SMB. The only missing link is between the SMB browser and Spotlight. Indexing doesn't work anymore.

So they cannot claim it is an SMB issue.

@ahenket:

Would be nice if someone from Apple would say anything. Or did they ?

@Apple:

Pleeeassse fix this ! This is a productivity show stopper.

-- Harald

here is how our IT department will be attempting to fix this...

We use software on our windows server called extremeZ-IP for file access and resources to all the mac users. A new version extremeZ-IP2 is out and that is what we are upgrading to.

hope this helps. Notice its not an Apple fix, nor a Microsoft fix...

I have the same problem. When i use the terminal and the find command osx 10.7 find all the files on the smb volume.

find command:

find /Volumes/Server -name "*put_in_your_search*"

Server means the volume name of the mounted server

Hellow everyone. I'm working on updating the Firmware of my Iomega NAS device (StoreCenter ix4-200d) and will let you know if the FM update solves the searching issue on this particular device. Backup should be completed by tomorrow afternoon and then well do the FM update and cross our fingers.

it's unbelievable that Apple doesn't find a solution to a problem that big!

Actually a Lion machine is unusable in a net. We have a Linux server and We are really strieving to find a solution (We are a small firm We cannot spend thousands euro/dollars for large enterprise solutions)...

DOH!

I tried a number of 3rd party search apps including Find Any File and Easyfind. Both had trouble finding files on my NAS from my MacBook Air running Lion. The only one that consistently located NAS files using Lion is MagicanFile. Looks like it's now free.