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Finder Crash on Lion

I have my Lion Finder crashing all the time.


I can't even restart, quit an app and it will get unresponsibe. A soon as you Force Quit, the Finder crash.


I can get to restart the machine, need to push the power button until it turns off.


Also everytime this happen, Spotlight begins the index again, from scratch.


Any ideas.


I have clean install Lion (Make an USB installer) and then move my files using time Machine.


I am afraid that the only solution is to begin from scratch... I hope not.


thanks!

Mac OS X (10.7)

Posted on Jul 21, 2011 1:17 PM

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Jul 23, 2011 12:11 PM in response to scorpiorn

After hours of frustration I decide to forget about time machine.


Re-install a clean Lion and move everything manually, files, re-install software and more.


Lion is working great now, so I guess there was something incompatible comming from SL.


Since I did that the problem got solved, I am just mad, that you invest so much in Time Machine to prove to be useless in this case.

Jul 30, 2011 5:06 PM in response to apinaud

Just to add a "me too", in case anyone from Apple is reading this - I am experiencing repeated Finder crashes, necessitating Force Relaunch quite frequently (and even this is not a reliable way of returning the system to functionality). This is very disappointing. The problem occurs on my Mac Pro (Upgraded to Lion from Snow Leopard), Mac mini (clean install of Lion) and my brand new MacBook Air (Lion pre-installed).


I have been submitting crash reports whenever possible, so hopefully Apple can work out what's causing this and expedite a fix. I'm not sure "200 new features" is much of a benefit if something as simple as the way in which users access the filesystem has become unusable.

Jul 30, 2011 7:05 PM in response to gbsallery

I did find a fix in the end ... but it was pretty painful 😟

Essentially, I needed to create a new administrator login on my Mac. The newly created login should work fine.


I could back up all my preferences files by opening Mac Terminal, then using Unix commands to su to my account (command line only) and copy files to a new location.


Once logged into to your account, you can potentially look for and remove corrupt files that are causing Finder to crash. If you search Google you'll find suggestions of corrupt files on the Desktop or within System Preferences that have triggered similar problems with other upgrades. Personally I couldn't find whatever it was that was causing my system to crash though. As such, I proceeded to back up the important files on my old user account, then delete the account - creating a new (equivalently named) one that I could use going forward.


It's also helpful to unhide the Library folder on my system. Fortunately you can see it through Mac Terminal - but if trying to restore files from a Time Machine copy, then this is pretty essential.
http://www.macworld.com/article/161156/2011/07/view_library_folder_in_lion.html
Speaking of Time Machine I was pretty disappointed in Time Machine's ability to restore system files though - fine regular docs but not very clever beyond that. You can do a FULL system restore by booting up on your original Mac CD, then restoring from a backup - but then you potentially need to go through the Lion update process and Finder crash all over again.


Once my files were backed up, I deleted the user account, and created a new one with the same name/password as before. The downside was that I lost my system preferences, bookmarks, and plugins RapidWeaverplus other utilities I'd installed. I needed to reinstall these (though fortunately I'd recovered my rapidweaver preferences file - plus had all the appropriate registration keys saved in my email).


Hence I've now got a working system again. Notably, another casualty of the Lion upgrade was the free NTFS-3G driver I had installed. It either wasn't recognising PC-format external drives being plugged in or was behaving very flakily. I upgraded to Paragon NTFS (USD 20) and have been find since.


SUMMARY: New Lion OS is fine, but Apple has a lot to learn about making their systems robust and not causing unnecessary pain for users.


Maybe it wasn't Apple software that caused the corrupt file (whatever it was) as it may have been other plugins or other apps. BUT, at the very least, Apple should make Finder more robust and less dumb, so that if issues cause it problems, it can handle the situation better and smoothly recover (maybe identifying the fact there had been a crash, identifying the file that caused the issue, and putting it into some sort or quarantine).

Aug 2, 2011 7:51 PM in response to apinaud

I had the same problem. Out of left field I started Lion in Safe Mode by holding the shift key while booting. I worked with finder for a while to see if I could get to crash but it never did. I rebooted in normal mode and haven't had a problem since. Booting in safe mode cleans certain locations but i'm not sure what it does but I have not had a problem since booting in Safe Mode, give it a try!!

Aug 5, 2011 1:10 AM in response to apinaud

I had this problem for a while, too. Both on my 2010 iMac 27", and on my 2006 MBP 15". I tried most things, like force quit/finder restart etc, and most of those solutions worked for a while, or at best until the next reboot.

Then I booted in safe mode as WallaceT suggested, and after restarting again, the problem appears to have been solved! Not sure why or how it works either, but so far so good. No need to change accounts etc, at least not in my case.

Aug 9, 2011 1:32 AM in response to apinaud

I have a work computer AND a client computer to which this happened on the same day. My work machine, a 21.5 mid-2011 iMac had a clean install of Lion and I had just installed iWork 09 from a .dmg when both the Finder and iTunes unexpectedly quit (read: crash). Every time I clicked OK on the crash report, a new crash window would pop up. Finder is now stuck in a limbo of immediate, repeated crashes. Booted to repair partition, ran Disk Repair and Repair Disk Permissions, did a Safe Boot -- nothing helps.


On the client's computer (same model), the same Finder issue occured immediately after installing MacPhoneHome from a .dmg. Went through the same procedure as noted above, with the same disappointing results. Obviously the next step is to re-install, but I'd love to know what the issue is before I do that. Reinstalling and then adding one component at a time is the only answer I have at the moment.


I'm wondering if there is something going on with the built in installer. Though that doesn't explain the remarkably similar behaviours noted above.

Aug 13, 2011 8:42 AM in response to apinaud

I've found my Finder is much less stable when I have a window in column view that sorts items by label, kind, size, application or any kind of date. Specifically, sorted-column-view Finder windows vanish when I visit the Computer, Applications, Utilities or Home folders by typing cmd-shift-C, -A, -U, -H respectively.


Periodically Lion asks if I want to restore my Finder windows. If I do, the problem persists. Sorting column view by name and 'none' work fine.

Aug 17, 2011 10:52 AM in response to apinaud

One more to add to the list. What I did:


1/ reboot in safe mode

2/ go to Users Pref pane

3/ remove all login items

4/ add another account just in case

5/ disable auto login

6/ reboot (normal)

7/ log in with main user


Worked.


8/ remove account added in step 4

9/ apply 10.7.1 update (yeah I got this crap the update day ;-)

10/ reboot


Regards,

Robby

Finder Crash on Lion

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