Dual monitors and fullscreen fiasco, is there a work around?

Csound1 wrote:

Futzak.

Quoi?

Google: <<did you mean "Futrzak">> Polish for "furry"?

I'm pretty sure that's not on topic. Click the image to get th polish GIF game animation to play. Hey ho you live & learn.

So presumably this is all fixed now. Why keep harping on this issue? It makes these forums less usable?

da bishop wrote:

Google: <<did you mean "Futrzak">> Polish for "furry"?

No

Csound1 wrote:

Apple.com/feedback

And then what? Create a 50+ pages thread to go with it and wait 2 years?

Summer05 wrote:

Csound1 wrote:

Apple.com/feedback

And then what? Create a 50+ pages thread to go with it and wait 2 years?

You can always do nothing instead.

Sounds like a better deal instead of wasting time and money.

Microsoft doing it right on Apple for once. Look, I can use two screens and everything! 😀

btw feedback left. Fully expect it to have no effect as they have made up their minds already.

EDIT: someone has an active imagination, reporting that last post!!

Csound1 wrote:

If you can run ML then it is likely that you will be able to run Mavericks

An Early-2008 MacBook4,1 EOLs at Lion. On that machine, regardless of how improved full-screen and dual monitors on Mavericks is, Lion is still a problem. It's great when a solution costs $29 to fix. When it costs several thousand dollars, not so great.

Great. There's "issues" with mavericks.

http://www.macrumors.com/2013/06/17/video-shows-differences-between-mavericks-an d-mountain-lion-multiple-monitor-support/

Csound1 wrote:

john lewis wrote:

http://support.apple.com/kb/PH11359

"In many apps, including Calendar, Mail, and Safari, you can expand the window to fill your entire SCREEN."

Poor show Apple...blatantly forgetting about multiplie monitor users. I'd get fired for programming with neglect like that.

Those apps mentioned do expand to full screen exactly as described, I fail to see the relevance of your last paragraph.

Complain to Apple, we are just users like you, what do you expect us to do? (assuming that we agree with you)

It wasn't mentioned in the Lion demo that when your notebook screen is your primary display, your expensive Thunderbolt display will be rendered into $1000 wallpaper for the duration of your full-screen session. So, while the initial app behaves as expected, the rest of the operating system does not. Nobody who has used an extended desktop arrangement would ever expect their external monitors to be blanked out simply through the act of replying to e-mail.

The technicality of saying that it works exactly as the API docs say it will just isn't helpful. The behaviour of full-screen apps in Snow Leopard, e.g., QuickTime, fill the screen of whichever monitor you have the app windowed, leaving the other monitor alone. People get used to that. A guy with an array of 3 Cinema Displays will rightly get very cranky when he replies to e-mail and two of his displays go dark after upgrading to Lion.

And for those of us with systems featuring a 32-bit EFI, the problem remains entirely unsolved. Mavericks is only a solution for those users who are willing to buy new hardware. Those who are not/cannot get to live with Apple's best implementation of their worst designed feature.

*shrug*

Glennny2Lappies wrote:

Great. There's "issues" with mavericks.

http://www.macrumors.com/2013/06/17/video-shows-differences-between-mavericks-an d-mountain-lion-multiple-monitor-support/

Treating each monitor as its own virtual desktop will totally bork my workflow. I use extended desktops with each Space having its own workflow theme:

1. Terminal / Finder / RDC sessions;
2. Browsers / Mail;
3. Programming IDEs / Debugger sessions;
4. iTunes windows (10.7 here, so still the MDI capability)
5. iWork
6. Client accounting / timekeeping

Yes, I use 6 extended desktops. Mavericks will fix the full-screen problem, but introduce workflow issues due to the inability to treat both monitors as a single, extended desktop. I know that several users commenting earlier in this thread will be positively delighted with the new behaviour (they requested it specifically). Me, not so much.

I can't believe there hasn't been a 3rd party app, a hack, or something which fixes this issue yet.

Or is there?

Anyone?

I FOUND AN AWESOME and EASY FIX!!!! (Well, work-around)... Find the movie file on the HD (not the icon in iTunes)... then Drag and Drop it into the URL bar of Safari. Then it will let you PLAY FULL SCREEN!!!

I looks for hrs and hrs on the internet, and stumbled on this fix on my own.

This is working really good for me. PLEASE like if this helped you. Sometimes it works in Firefox or Chrome, but I found that it works best in Safari.

Enjoy!

This assumes you're trying to play a video. What if I want to display a spreadsheet full-screen on a connected projector while looking at a different document on my Macbook screen? Why do so many people think the only problem with 10.7/8 full-screen support has to do with watching movies?

Anyway, Apple has already shown that they're fixing this in 10.9. And, unless there's stuff they haven't told us, totally breaking the currently working parts of multi-monitor support 😟 From what they've shown, not only can the screens switch spaces independently, but they have to switch screens independently so you can't treat 2 monitors as one big monitor anymore.

There are many times when I want it to work the way that it does - and other when I want it to work the way they're changing it to. At least with 4k monitors getting a lot cheaper (Seiki 39" for $700!), in my next upgrade I'll just have one big screen and not have to worry about how Apple thinks multiple monitors should work!

David