Scroll Bar arrows Gone?

The Apple bluetooth mouse allows scrolling by moving your fingertips up and down on the surface of the mouse.

If you're waiting for an update to Lion, that ship sailed years ago. It's not going to happen.

And, if you're not talking about Lion, then you're in the wrong forum.

As this constitutes discrimination against physically disabled people, I am sure that Apple will be as responsive as Xerox and HP have been when I have contacted them over very different problems... As I am now less able to use my Microsoft Office and Adobe CS6

One letter to the CEO of Xerox resulted in a remote session to imporove coding on their driver which had also had functionality removed...

Tim Cook should spend some time with her....

Sarah

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SarahD22 wrote:

As this constitutes discrimination against physically disabled people, I am sure that Apple will be as responsive as Xerox and HP have been when I have contacted them over very different problems... As I am now less able to use my Microsoft Office and Adobe CS6

One letter to the CEO of Xerox resulted in a remote session to imporove coding on their driver which had also had functionality removed...

Tim Cook should spend some time with her....

Sarah

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File your complaint in the appropriate place, which is not here. It has been years now since this issue arose, and there is no sign of it returning.

Pete

Wow. That was pretty quick. Lets just say this is EXACTLY the right place to post that, and leave it at that.

Lanny, with is with the effort to shut people up who would like to see a change? These are legitimate and obviously wide spread complains by people how love apple, and want to keep loving it. This is obviously the right forum. I'm just bumping the same question (which is obviously being asked by MANY) up so that they can all be seen at once. Why is that such a problem?

ScooterN2005 wrote:

Wow. That was pretty quick. Lets just say this is EXACTLY the right place to post that, and leave it at that.

Yes, just where a handful of users from years back may see (????) see it. But not Apple. I see your brilliant logic. 😝

Pete

ScooterN2005 wrote:

These are legitimate and obviously wide spread complains by people how love apple,

(which is obviously being asked by MANY)

This thread is four and a half years old. Can you link us to the 'many' who cannot live without it? The other many many millions simply moved on. But seems you are either incapable or just trolling. Either way start your own thread instead of trying, and poorly, I must admit) to hijack this ancient, long dead one.😉

Pete

You make my point for me, and answer your own question. The age of this still active thread tells the tale.

I give you the old "Tipper Gore" advice. If it bothers you, stop following the thread. Nobody is hurting you.

ScooterN2005 wrote:

You make my point for me, and answer your own question. The age of this still active thread tells the tale.

I give you the old "Tipper Gore" advice. If it bothers you, stop following the thread. Nobody is hurting you.

No No!! Please don't stop! The office staff are gathered around the screen in anticipation of your next ridiculous comment, as you are the only one bumping up this thread. It is most entertaining. We call it Idi*t-Cam.🙂

Pete

😁

Thanks!!!

And.... Now no secure delete. Nice. That's going to go over BIG in the Snowden era.

The downgrades continue.

ScooterN2005 wrote:

And.... Now no secure delete. Nice. That's going to go over BIG in the Snowden era.

The downgrades continue.

Secure delete is a false sense of security.

If you have an SSD (which many of today's Mac's ship with) then the multiple writes just keep writing to different dynamically reallocated blocks and the original blocks with all the original data get moved to the pool of future blocks to be reused. All secure erase does is shorten the life of the SSD without actually removing the data.

In addition, if an SSD block starts to fail, it is retired with the data still in it.

For a rotating disk, if a sector fails during any part of the creation of the file or the erasing, that sector can be replaced with a spare and the failed sector with the data you want erased still on it.

In fact a SSD because of wear leveling, is more likely to return blocks than a rotating disk is to have a failed sector.

So while the average user has almost no sensitive information, and the few times they want to do a secure erase, it is likely no one will really spend a lot of money to recover data that in retired blocks. However, if a Mac is actually used for sensitive data (the kind that someone would spend money to recover) will NOT get what they expect. And that is a liability problem.

Because of the other downgrades in the last few incarnations of the OS, I'm still using a rotating disk and will not be upgrading until the OS improves or restores previous functionality. I understand about SSD's, but I also understand that many of us still have actual disks - even people who purchase new apples will likely have an external, rotating disk for backup, time machine, etc.

ScooterN2005 wrote:

Because of the other downgrades in the last few incarnations of the OS, I'm still using a rotating disk and will not be upgrading until the OS improves or restores previous functionality. I understand about SSD's, but I also understand that many of us still have actual disks - even people who purchase new apples will likely have an external, rotating disk for backup, time machine, etc.

So?

Pete