This aspect of Safari 5.1 is really lame!

If anyone can reproduce an error in 5.1.2, please tell me how to cause it to crash so that I may verify this against my system.

So far I am running fine with multiple tabs running, for hours at a time.

Previously with 5.1 this was a problem that caused forced reloads of all tabs, even tabs that where not running anything.

This is no longer a problem so far.

If you have a crash, please explain so we can tell Apple what exactly to find and fix.

(I am not an Apple employee, just asking)

I had three tabs open. One with Gmail, one with another website (sagepub.com) and another with a PDF open from sagepub.com. I had these tabs open for about 2-3 hours, put my MBP to sleep, then reopened it. Spinning beach ball appeared on the sagepub.com tab, when I clicked over to the gmail tab, Safari began to reload gmail.

At that point, I closed Safari and opened Firefox. I need to be able to work, so Ill leave it up to others (MacSter2008?) to experiment. My hunch says Flash has a huge part to do with this, since GMail uses invisible Flash applets.

Im running 10.6.8. I have no plans to upgrade to 10.7 at this time.

Seeing as how I volunteered to test, I am just clocking in as of 5 minutes ago.

I have 10 tabs open. (2 interactivebrokers, 2 optionsexpress, 1 gmail, one sagepub.com, one PDF from sagepub.com, and 3 youtube tabs open to run some flash)

I will use youtube for background music to keep it running, and post what happens after 3+ hours or a crash.

back later.

(almost out of Ram too )

Hours later, youtube running, PDF, same websites and a few others.

No crash.

I was not able to reproduce the old Safari issue.

Seems still good to me.

well, for the 1st couple of days everything went well and there was vast improvement;

just had the first 'force reload pages' message BUT right after that i clicked on a site that has a lot of Flash on it and also clicked on a video.

i instantly got the message

Flash Player upgrade required

You must download and install the latest version of the Adobe Flash Player to view this content.

conicidence? i'm not so sure! i used to use ClcktoFlash to turn them off and decide when I want to use it; haven't checked to see if they upgraded it for Lion for awhile. i do HATE Flash...

just checked ClicktoFlash; Safari 5.1.2 and got this message

Note: Safari 5.1 drops support for WebKit Plugins, which unfortunately includes ClickToFlash.

Try out Marc Hoyois’ ClickToPlugin Safari Extension.

have to find out more about their suggestion of ClickToPlugin recommendation...

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The problem being reported here has nothing to do with Flash. I don't even have Flash on my computer (except inside Chrome).

I've done the upgrade and am waiting to see how it's going. The previous one seemed to help a bit, so I'm optimistic. So far at least WebContent isn't grabbing all my free memory, though it's pretty big (I do have a lot of tabs open).

i just reported it as a conincidence happening immediately after getting the force reload message.

Flash, like Microsoft does embed itself in a lot of places we aren't aware of on websites...

Safari hogged up 1.5 GB of ram and asked for forced reloads when I attempted to Stop a PHP 3MB page from loading.

I have 10.7.2 and the Safari 5.0.5 installer will not work above 10.6

Lucky I have another 10.6 mac (because 10.7 is not favorable on a 10.6 server that does not need an update. If it aint broke....)

I guess I have to install 5.0.5 on the 10.6 and pull a copy of that onto my 10.7 macbook.

(posted using Firefox)

Ok here is my input.

In safari 5.1.1, I too had many of these issues. I had figured out when mine were happening, When i have multiple windows of safari opened, I would open a new tab drag it out to make a new window, then go to a page, then comes the message. This would also happen when I draged a tab out to make a new window, the loaded a page, either refresh or new webpage.

It does not do this in sarfari 5.1.2 for me or at least not yet. I evan waited until i had a set of pages I know it was doing this with then updated and reopened the last session.

I have not messed with any plugins, however I know that adobe flash is a big issue. On my personal laptop, I have Lion which required adobe flash instead of whatever use to be used. I installed flash off adobe's website which installed a 32bit version in a 64bit browser this caused issues for me. I ended up finding a beta version of adobe flash for Mac 64bit and that problem was solved.

So, the problem I am thinking that there are 32bit plugins/extensions that are running in the 64bit browser causing those issues, and maybe the opposite for the 32bit browser. If someone whats to to kindof comfirm my theory by testing, I would like to hear their results.

Sorry Rusty, but I think you're looking at red herrings.

1) Extensions are written in JavaScript and are platform independent. There are no 32bit or 64bit extensions.

2) Plugins are sandboxxed

3) Like others on this thread, I don't use Flash or ANY plugins.

5.1.2 did very little to help.

Safari STILL hangs.

IT STILL FREAKING REDRAWS EVERY WINDOW AND TAB WHEN YOU CLICK BACK TO THEM!

What is up with that? Why??? WHY????? It's barely ususable!

Also the AutoFill *****. I FORGOT how much better it used to be until I downgraded my MacBook to 5.0.5. It Autofills without having me click multiple choices.

I cannot believe that Apple is making changes that make their products MORE cumbersome to use, not easier and more intuitive.

This is a very worrisome trend.

Time to downgrade Safari on my iMac too.

Still happening. Apple should be embarassed about this.

Everytime I switch windows or tabs, it redraws.

I'm going back to 5.0.5

Can somebody tell me where to lodge my complaint?

I just want to state that even after upgrade to Safari 5.1.2 i still get the beachball on many pages especially after emptying the cash; i must wait an unpredictable time after Safari can respond again.it is independant of using multiple tabs.

So although i wish Safari to work well, i must use an alternative browser. E.g. I dont have any issues when using FF.

OS is snowleopard 10.6.8

actually, the upgrade is now worse. i am now getting the message "This page won't load"

the new Safari on the iPad works seemelessly with no problems with the added benefit of tabs for me; unfortunately, iOS5 on both the iPad & iPhone are turning out to be disasters now also;

this is Apple's version of Vista...

Ok finally got around to updating on my personal laptop and I still have the crashes on there. Running snow Leopard and this version on safri seems good, but with lion it is actually chrasing pages sooner for me but less often. I have also noticed that now when it reloads it will only reload the current tab, but when you click but to any of the other tabs, it forces a reloads on that one as well.

And one thing I have noticed with my computer running lion is that for me the beach ball in safari is happening when the memory is low. This I know is a problem, because i have 4GB of ram and like right now I have 157MB remaining and i dont have that much open. For me the problem is safari web content will get very high and fill my memory.