How do I uninstall Lion

I really feel sorry for those who downloaded lion. You had a choice. It needs to sit for awhile until the bugs are exterminated. I didn't have that choice as it was on my Apple when I ordered it and I can't use anything but what Apple made on it. I would like to get back to Leopard but it won't even accept the Leopard CD. When I put it in it became a gray screen with a low beep! I have no use for Lion right now and until they fix the stuff that is wrong I want out! How? Help please someone! I am not getting anywork done right now.

Norma Filppula wrote:

I really feel sorry for those who downloaded lion. You had a choice. It needs to sit for awhile until the bugs are exterminated. I didn't have that choice as it was on my Apple when I ordered it and I can't use anything but what Apple made on it.

I downloaded Lion and there's no need to feel sorry for me, everything worked fine. I had literally one small problem, all my dozens of third-party programs work, computer is blazing fast... literally the best, easiest OS upgrade I've ever done.

Mind you I installed Lion over SL on one iMac from 2006, and also have purchased a new iMac with Lion already installed and used migration assistant to clone everything over from a backup. No problems, smooth sailing all the way.

It's not the installing that is the issue (that works as a charm).

Its all the following hassle of things that turn up unexpected, not supposed to happen, and some things that just don't work proper.

Well I guess I feel sorry fOr those that do not have a choice whatsoever. Lion is really not. Finished product. It does have some really cool features though!

My Time Machine backup was on a ReadyNAS Duo with 2 x 2TB drives, so my Time Machine backup was itself backed up.

Apart from having an infinite chain of disks backing each other up, I don't know what else I could have done - there is a finite amount of room in my house and a finite amount of money in my bank account.

Alf Megson wrote:

My Time Machine backup was on a ReadyNAS Duo with 2 x 2TB drives, so my Time Machine backup was itself backed up.

Apart from having an infinite chain of disks backing each other up, I don't know what else I could have done - there is a finite amount of room in my house and a finite amount of money in my bank account.

I don't think it's about having infinite backups... it's about have the right kind of backups. I believe in three backups: TM, bootable clone, and offsite.

TM backup is very useful, but mostly for recovering documents that are accidentally deleted etc. NOT as a recovery backup.

A bootable clone of your internal HD that's updated preferably daily will give you security in knowing that if your HD frags, or you install something that you don't like, you can recover your entire system in a matter of minutes using the bootable clone, you lose 24 hours of work or less. Superduper or other schedualable cloning programs make this a seamless backup that happens in the background.

And lastly an off-site backup either in the cloud (Crash Plan etc.) or in a building different from the one the computer in is a nice piece of insurance against the building itself burning down.

So for you, with 2x2TB drives... I'd make one of them a TM drive and make the other a bootable clone of my internal HD. That way no matter what happens you have your entire computer and all it's files immediately available in the event of a bad upgrade, failed HD etc.

The offsite stuff is optional, but a nice safety blanket IMO.

Kappy. Thanks for these details. Much appreciated.

I'm in the process of cloning my MacBook Air HD onto an external HD using Cabron Copy Cloner. I have been using this external drive to back up my internal HD using Time Machine. *** to learn that Time Machine is of no use here...

I just wanted to confirm something: After the cloning is completed, I'm going to boot from my Snow Leopard USB Reinstall Drive and follow your instructions. Once I have reinstalled Snow Leopard, I'll need to restore the data from the Carbon Copy back up. Correct?

Is there anything I should be aware of when restoring using Carbon Copy? Can I just hit "Restore"? Does it matter that the Carbon Copy back up was made using Lion and the restoration will occur in Snow Leopard?

Many thanks!

If you restore your clone the destination drive will be identical to the clone, so you'll have Lion

True...How do I restore my data after reinstalling Snow Leopard? I have a Time Machine backup from when I was on Snow Leopard. I can't use that?

Thanks fo helping.

I'm no TM expert so won't comment, you can restore from the clone manually (next time clone the existing system before replacing it) but that's an exacting process and not all apps will work, if your restore data only you should be OK.

Post again in the TM forum, perhaps one of those guys can help.

Mine did not come with system disks. It is a brand new 27" iMac 3.4Ghz QC with 4 GB RAM. It came loaded with Lion. I bought CS5 to put on it. It is so slow, I cannot work effectively. Everything is clean. There is no reason for this.

I really want to back-grade to Leopard 10.5.8 (what I was using on my now dying 24" 2.6Ghz C2D with 4 GB RAM using CS3) and reload CS3 just to get back to work. There doesn't seem to be a way since I didn't have SL to begin with. Obviously, there was nothing to backup (on the new machine - the old one is backed-up). Duh.

Any ideas how to get the new machine to boot from my Leopard 10.5 disks so I can just erase everything and run leopad/CS3 on the new iMac? Or maybe boot from a retail version of SL, which I am willing to try at this point. ANYTHING would be better than Lion.

Really? Is that why they still have a huge line of Mac Pros? Major computers well out of the average consumer price point? Dude, you've lost it.

I agree that some folks are clearly not having any issue s with Loin - but even Adobe says their CS line is not fully compatable with it yet. This IS the Pro level we are talking about, yes? Don't you think that with machines (not mine - I couldn't afford one) that have as many as 12 cores, and a price point above $3000. all billed as Pro models, the OS would be compatable with Pro level software?

Ah, and then there is the whole Final Cut debacle...

Really, I understand the consumer product line is the cash-cow, but I have to agree with Jakecub and Geestig here.

Just wipe the disk and load the old OS? I wish it were that simple. Really. So, how exactly do I get my new machine to boot from the Leopard (grey) disk that came with my 24" iMac?

Or how about from a retail version of SL? All I can get is a black screen with Unix on it... which, frankly, I know nothing about.

mitchbentley wrote:

Mine did not come with system disks. It is a brand new 27" iMac 3.4Ghz QC with 4 GB RAM. It came loaded with Lion. I bought CS5 to put on it. It is so slow, I cannot work effectively. Everything is clean. There is no reason for this.

Incorrect, there's IS a reason for it: Adobe hasn't bothered to update their software to work properly on Lion. That's not Apple's fault.

Again I fail to understand why all the people with Adobe software that's not working properly are on here griping about Apple.... this is 100% Adobe's fault, not Apple, go complain at Adobe!

Developer versions of Lion were available for months prior to release and Adobe is a MAJOR company who, if they cared about their Mac customers, would have devoted the necessary resources to updating their software suites to play nice with Lion.

Apple is not and should not be responsible for 3rd party software vendors who can't be bothered to react to OS upgrades.

Apple is in the business of providing hardware and software for their customers. If OTHER companies like Adobe want to take advantage of the platform Apple provides then it's on ADOBE's shoulders to respond to OS updates, it's NOT on Apple's shoulders to hold up their production schedule because of other companies like Adobe dragging their feet.

So stop complaining about Apple and Lion, this is an ADOBE problem, not a Lion problem.

And all this talk of downgrading is IMO silly, what do you think is going to happen in the future, Apple is going to go backwards to Snow Leopard? Forget about it, you're going to have to update sooner or later, you should be spending your time pressuring Adobe to be better about keeping pace with the platforms their software supposedly runs on.

mitchbentley wrote:

Don't you think that with machines... that have as many as 12 cores, and a price point above $3000. all billed as Pro models, the OS would be compatable with Pro level software?

Come again? You think that the platform provider should throttle their development resources and schedule because of the lousy support non-affiliated 3rd party vendors are providing their customers? You must be kidding!

Apple provides a platform, they're not a business partner with Adobe the last I heard. If Adobe wants to support customers on Apple then it's up to ADOBE to do that, not Apple. If they can't or won't then they should stop claiming they do. t's on Adobe to stay current with platforms they claim to support, Apple has absolutely no responsiblity to hold back their development pace because of 3rd party vendors dragging their feet.