Restore bounce to Mail in Lion

What is use on our websites is SpamStopper (there are others) that converts the email address to ASCII code therefore robots won't read them as emails when scanning websites looking for email addresses.

Also I use the SPAM and VIRUS filters on my ISP (1and1.com). 1and1 also doesn't charge for privitizing domain name info hiding it from pubic view whereas some hosts like godaddy do charge to make your info private.

You can report spam spam@uce.gov and http://www.spamcop.net/anonsignup.shtml The website http://www.spamspan.com has tips and a generator.

SPAM can cost businesses a considerable amount. Support anti-SPAM legislation.

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Does anyone know if it is possible to edit the code of the "bounce" command that is used in the Automator/AppleScript that jasonfromcorvallis posted? Where is it actually located?

My application for bounce is this: when I recently moved my domain's email from a personal server to Google Apps for Domains, my address became the "catch-all" for all mail set to the domain which does not go to one of the designated mailboxes (there are about 5 actual users). I can disable the catch-all, but would like to keep it for now to make sure things are working correctly. Anyway, since there is a catch-all address, mail sent to non-existent users is not bounced as it would normally be, but is instead sent to my mailbox. This is not spam (which Google does a great job of filtering) but is mis-addressed email intended for others.

I do not have time to reply to each one with a message, but would simply like to bounce the messages, which is exactly what would happen if I had not configured the domain with a catch-all. However, the AppleScript, which works like a charm, bounces the messages as if it had been addressed to me, not to the actual intended receipient. In that case, the bounce will be inexplicable to the sender, and thus not worthwhile.

But if I had access to the code that "bounce" uses, I could probably fix it. Ideas?

Yeah, it is. Scan this thread and you'll see how. Once it's installed, then you'll have to write an AppleScript that opens the service ala GUI scripting.

Thanks Alex, I guess I was not clear. I have installed the AppleScript from this thread, making it a Service via Automator, but it is not working for the particular application I need, which is for the bounce message to make clear which address was undeliverable, not just making it appear that my address was undeliverable. This is becuse my mailbox is the so-called "catch-all" or "default" for my domain.

In other words, if my address is abc@mydomain.com, and someone sends to def@mydomain.com, I will get that message due to the way the domain is configured. (This is extremely common for personal domains.) However, if I use the bounce script, the NDN that is sent will say:

abc@mydomain.com: no such user

when I want it to say:

def@mydomain.com: no such user

It would be nice to be able to configure the bounce message and have it use the "To:" line of the message instead of my address, but I don't know where the code for the AppleScript "bounce" command refrerenced in the script is and how, or even if, it can be modified.

I tried the CNet solution and nothing happened. No extra menu, no 'bounce' button added and no instructions. Apple should never have taken this button away.

Mac 101

jimwww wrote:

I tried the CNet solution and nothing happened. No extra menu, no 'bounce' button added and no instructions. Apple should never have taken this button away.

List of things Apple took away for no reason:

- The ability to search by name with +F

- Rosetta

- Bouncing in Mail

- The eject key on keyboards

Well, Rosetta had to go. OS 9 is so old, it would be expensive to support.

But I just found another unsettling issue. In Mountain Lion and Lion, the user specific Applications folder is missing within user's folder.

Dammit! Why do they keep breaking things that we have become used to and then try to use but find are now missing!

If you create such a folder, doesn't it still serve the same purpose?

Well, the point is, "I don't know. Does it?"

If something is missing that was present in previous releases, I don't expect my simply recreating it to automatically make it start working as it used to.

Well, I looked around and looked in my other user folders on several 10.6.8 boxes and the Applications folder is there in many users, but not for all, so this leads me to think that this is a supported folder, but an optional one.

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AHA! Many times when we run an installer, the Apple approved installer allows you to install an application for just one user, or for all users on the system. That's how this gets created.

The user specific Applications folder is a standard and supported folder, but an optiopnal one, even though Apple's docs neglect mentioning it.

CNET solution works. After installing, you need to customize your toolbar and drag the bounce button onto your current toolbar. It took me a while to figure out as well, but it works great.

Dan

Also, why are the library folders hidden with no option to change them back?! You have to use Terminal to unhide them.

Rosetta is for PPC OS X apps, not OS 9 (that was Classic). I don't see why Rosetta would be expensive to support. What's different about Rosetta in Lion? Why wouldn't the Snow Leopard version work like most apps that aren't made for Lion but work for it anyway? I'd pay $10 or so for Rosetta in Lion because a lot of my apps NEED it!

Alex Zavatone wrote:

Well, I looked around and looked in my other user folders on several 10.6.8 boxes and the Applications folder is there in many users, but not for all, so this leads me to think that this is a supported folder, but an optional one.

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AHA! Many times when we run an installer, the Apple approved installer allows you to install an application for just one user, or for all users on the system. That's how this gets created.

The user specific Applications folder is a standard and supported folder, but an optiopnal one, even though Apple's docs neglect mentioning it.

Yeah, I always saw that folder there and wondered what it was. I only ever use the system Applications folder.

Mac OS 9000 wrote:

Also, why are the library folders hidden with no option to change them back?! You have to use Terminal to unhide them.

Rosetta is for PPC OS X apps, not OS 9 (that was Classic). I don't see why Rosetta would be expensive to support. What's different about Rosetta in Lion? Why wouldn't the Snow Leopard version work like most apps that aren't made for Lion but work for it anyway? I'd pay $10 or so for Rosetta in Lion because a lot of my apps NEED it!

Rosetta was a 3rd party application, it's not Apples.