Restore bounce to Mail in Lion

THANK YOU! 😍 I have never known what Automator or Applescript could do for me -- never written a script before and have never been motivated to learn. BUT, I have successfull bounced some unwelcomed emails (not spam but personal). You are a lifesaver -- sometimes "delete" just doesn't go far enough.

!!!911!!! Is it at all possible for the service to apply itself to messages that were not specifically selected? Or to "all messages" from a single email address?

I have recieved a message from a hostile client who got "a very large number of bounce messages" in her inbox. I don't think I bounce any of her emails. 😕 Thanks!

evrgreen69 wrote:

!!!911!!! Is it at all possible for the service to apply itself to messages that were not specifically selected? Or to "all messages" from a single email address?

I have recieved a message from a hostile client who got "a very large number of bounce messages" in her inbox. I don't think I bounce any of her emails. 😕 Thanks!

Is it feasible that anyone else could have?

HI CSound...

No, they are from me -- she forwarded the bounce message. I've double checked the script and am going to check it again -- I've been reading the entire thread to see if I messed up anywhere. I may end up scraping the service if I can't figure it out. I added the script to deal with "hostile" but if the service is going to create hostile clients then I just won't use it. Might be trying to use something that isn't the best solution. Thanks for the reply.

I was extremely pleased that Apple removed Bounce, reading your post reinforces that. Hope the hostility drops 🙂

Well, check your sent mailbox and see if they are from you.

Thank you Csound for being so willing to support me as I take a step toward your camp...

Having read this discussion for as long as I could tolerate it, you'd think we were talking about guns not a "bounce message" function. Yes, the bounce feature can be abused and Yes, the bounce feature can be useful. I can't believe how acrymonious the tone of this discussion became.

We're all adults here, are we not? If someone wants to bounce a message back to sender who has been excessive, indiscriminate, abusive or inappropriate, then I think most adults can judge whether or not it's warranted. Discretion, when applied, should protect against "bounced messages" contributing to some larger issue of unregulated SPAM.

Similarly -- bouncing is NOT a cloak of invisibility and won't safeguard against ALL spam or unwanted emails. Again, education, understanding and discretion will go a long way when trying to address the ever-escalating rate of techno-harassment.

I would certainly like to thank those posters who have maintained some decorum and have filtered their own personal views in the interest of informing those of us who were not as aware of the tensions associated with that void where the "bounce" icon once resided. I appreciate having the know-how to bounce and the caution against its use. From here, I will make my own educated choice about that void in my toolbar.

evrgreen69 wrote:

Thank you Csound for being so willing to support me as I take a step toward your camp...

Having read this discussion for as long as I could tolerate it, you'd think we were talking about guns not a "bounce message" function. Yes, the bounce feature can be abused and Yes, the bounce feature can be useful. I can't believe how acrymonious the tone of this discussion became.

We're all adults here, are we not? If someone wants to bounce a message back to sender who has been excessive, indiscriminate, abusive or inappropriate, then I think most adults can judge whether or not it's warranted. Discretion, when applied, should protect against "bounced messages" contributing to some larger issue of unregulated SPAM.

If used as you describe I could hardly object to it, however as we both know it is often used indiscriminately, and it's a bit of a blunt instrument for that.

And it no longer exists in recent OSXs, so your only option is to plead with Apple.

Cheers

Pete

your only option is to plead with Apple.

Many just fix it themselves.

http://afewguyscoding.com/2011/08/restoring-bounce-functionality-mail-app-lion/

Yes some folks like adding hacks, often to the detriment of their system. And this is just another hack. Bounce is no longer part of most reliable mail programs as well as OSs.

Pete

Haha...Automator scripts are hacks, now? Wow, care to explain why Apple include this "hacking app" or why we should all avoid using this part of the supplied OS?

Ziatron wrote:

your only option is to plead with Apple.

Many just fix it themselves.

http://afewguyscoding.com/2011/08/restoring-bounce-functionality-mail-app-lion/

And some have problems caused by that, just as the poster I responded to.

Do you actually read these before you start posting?

Bounce worked for me because I receive emails from friends to an address that I've asked them not to use.

So when they would send me an email to that address, I would bounce them and they'd get the message.

Apple, please get rid of some of the know-it-alls here whose purpose seems to be about amusing themselves rather than contributing to the discussion.

Thx.

Why would Apple (if they were here) listen to a spammer about a feature they dropped completely for a reason that has been through a thousand times here? Contact Apple if you wish. I'm sure they'll explain it to the poorest of readers.

Good luck

Pete