Bring back old working Spaces and Expose

Mission Control is a complete misfire and several steps backwards in design and usability. They took something that was beautifully simple and nearly flawless and turned it into a chaotic mess for no reason.


I was a heavy user of Spaces and Expose and it was easily my favorite OS X feature hands down. Now it's been three days of Lion and I just avoid Mission Control at all costs and find myself switching apps instead, something I would expect from Microsoft, not Apple.


Trying to understand how to use MC without going insane I started simply swithing apps instead of thinking about spaces, and at least that made some sense, but there was still a lot of unnecessary changing of spaces back and forth for no reason. It dawned on me to try something: I killed all Spaces and have a single desktop with every window. You know, like Windows would do. As a testament of what a terrible idea MC is, it works a lot better this way. When you do Expose you can at least understand what you're looking at, and you don't care that the tiny Space thumbnail is being covered up by your windows. There's also no unnecessary shuffling between spaces. It's an obviously cluttered, primitive, step back in sophistication and usability that almost makes me wish I had Vista's Flip 3D, but at least I am not spending half of my time jumping between spaces and hunting down lost windows.


Here's some of the issues with Mission Control:


- It's visually confusing and messy. The application windows usually cover the Spaces thumbnails along the top. What is the point of showing me the Spaces if they're covered up with windows? Isn't that defeating the very point of Mission Control? Why do I need to see my desktop background inset within *another* background in MC? Why are the Windows stacked so tightly and messily? It's impossible to pick the window you want unless you do "App Expose". What is the point of having Spaces previews if they're so tiny you can barely see what it's in them anyway? They used to be nice, clean, large previews. Now it's a stupid mess of tiny thumbnails with drop shadows, text labels, multiple backgrounds, being covered by app windows... ugh.


- The fact that they are now a linear row of spaces along the top is clearly much less user friendly than the old grid method, which was spatially and visualy easy to use and memorize. Now I have to think about numbers for desktops instead of "up" or "down". You know how much easier it is to type numbers on a keypad versus pecking the linear numbers along the top of your keyboard? Same thing. Also, you could go into the old Spaces and accurately hit the Space you want to go to because they were huge, easy to read and remember targets. Now they're tiny, hard to remember and usually hidden under something else.


- It took the advantages of both Spaces and Expose and eliminated them in order to merge them, who knows why. You used to be able to go into Spaces, and then Expose while there to reveal every window, and find *any* open window in seconds. Now it's impossible. You have to shuffle haplessly through spaces and hit expose and hope the window you're looking for shows up, and if that fails, which happens often, then you have to switch to every application and hit app expose. What a mess.


Easy solution: Just bring back the old Spaces and Expose, maybe as an option to MC. Or at least give us the option fo a grid layout and old style Expose. Please. Please. Please.

Mac OS X (10.6.7)

Posted on Jul 23, 2011 12:49 AM

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Feb 12, 2013 8:13 AM in response to DaveSpencer

DaveSpencer wrote:


Pete - are you a complete and utter donut? The clue is in the title of the thread which is:

Bring back old working Spaces and Expose

The title of the thread isn't

Mission Control is wonderful don't bring back old working Spaces and Expose

If you have got absolutely nothing of any use to contribute to this thread then please be a good little boy and go away. Is it so difficult for you to grasp that none of your inane patronising ramblings have convinced us that you are right and we are all wrong.

Just following your lead 😉


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Dec 20, 2011 10:22 AM in response to DanAtWork

I agree with the above posts and, similar to DanatWork, I didn't realize how much I would rely on Spaces until I began developing with them. Now that I'm use to working with them, I feel as though something is missing when the Mission Control was introduced.


I did a little research and found a way to configure SPACES in Lion. I am able to flip left and right through desktop spaces. I'd love to flip up, down, left, right and use SPACES as the traditional OSX spaces was in Leopard.


The following link shows how to set up "Desktops" ( really "spaces" ) in Mission Control.


There are three main aspects of Snow Leopard’s Spaces behaviour that I use frequently:

  1. Creating multiple Spaces (four, in my case) for various purposes.
  2. Assigning certain apps to always open on a specified Space (and certain other apps to open on all Spaces).
  3. Switching directly to a given Space using a keyboard shortcut.

All of this functionality remains available on Lion, but some of the settings have changed location. Let’s deal with the above points in order.

Creating multiple Spaces

On Lion, Spaces tend to instead be called Desktops, but I’ll continue to use the term Spaces in this article. To make more, enter Mission Control and hover your mouse over the top-right of the screen (or hold the option/alt key). You’ll see a “+” button, and you can click it to create a new Space.

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You can also hover over any Space you’ve created (or again hold the option/alt key) to see a delete button, which you can use to delete that Space. You can only delete Spaces you’ve manually created.

Assigning apps to Spaces

Somewhat unusually, on Lion you assign apps to Spaces using the Dock. First, switch to the Space you want to assign an app to. Make sure the app is either running (and thus visible in the Dock) or has been added to the Dock. Then, right-click on its Dock icon and choose the “Options” submenu. You’ll see an “Assign To” section, where you can pin this app to either the current desktop (Space) or to all desktops.

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The “None” option means that the app will simply open on whatever the current Space is when it’s launched.

Keyboard shortcuts for switching Spaces

You can still switch directly to a specific Space using the keyboard, but the setting is now in the Keyboard pane in System Preferences. Open that preference pane, then select “Mission Control” from the list in the “Keyboard Shortcuts” tab.

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You can choose shortcuts for switching left and right by one Space, and for going directly to a specific numbered Space.

Hopefully these tips will make Lion’s implementation of multiple desktops a little more familiar.



http://mattgemmell.com/2011/07/27/using-spaces-on-os-x-lion/

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This helps somewhat. I really hope the real "spaces" returns as this is not the same and is very light and I'm a power user.

Jul 23, 2011 10:38 AM in response to tmsnnnz

I hope someone will read this and do something about it if not I am going to have to go back to snow Leopard

. I am going to talk about MISSION CONTROL.

1_I hate MISSION CONTROL and I cannot believe Apple has chosen mission control over spaces and expose.

When using mission control I have 12 safari pages open and I like to switch to each other by using expose BUT with mission control you have just taken this away from us. mission control does not expose like the old expose the open windows are behind each other. Please give us the option to have old spaces and expose back.


2-Another issue is in snow leopard if you click and hold the open application and it would show you all open windows of that applications.


3- where is the slider at the bottom of finder windows to make icons bigger or smaller. I know you can use zoom but this is not what I prefer, I like to use the slider and can you put this back.


4- The text in new address book are very small and I like them a little bigger can you give us the option.


5- I have noticed my full name appears at the top right corner of the menu bar and I just don't need this and I don't like it, option to remove it please

Jul 23, 2011 10:50 AM in response to delizaza23

delizaza23 wrote:


5- I have noticed my full name appears at the top right corner of the menu bar and I just don't need this and I don't like it, option to remove it please

Your full name can be removed or changed in System Preferences -> Users & Groups -> Login Options -> ☐Show fast user switching menu as...


Uncheck the box and the fast user switching menu will be removed.

Jul 23, 2011 1:19 PM in response to tmsnnnz

Here we are, everyone is starting to talk about spaces. fine LOVE mission control as much as you wish or whatever. I just want expose back as a stand alone it was before I am not interested in mission control or spaces. You need to understand that a lot of home users are only using internet and a few things at the same time, they only need one desktop and expose stand alone which is very user friendly, why can they not have this a stand alone without going in to mission control. I or no one is saying expose is better. I dont know if you have noticed but when you go on full scrren mode on safari ot goes in to a seperate desktop and it does that for each full screen safari that you open, so if you have 6 pages of safari that means 6 desktop. I also asigned photoshop to desktop 2 but asigned finder to desktop one. I went on desktop one and right clicked on an image open in photoshop BUT guess what althoug photoshop is asigned to desktop 2 but it has opened image in photoshop on desktop one. There are a lot of infringement and bugs. another thing is why in mission cont rol there are so much spaces wasted at the bottom, right and left side with this grey background. I am sorry to say but those who love mission control should use it and try to find bugs to report to apple because I am not using it because I do not need it I only need expose but I cannot have it just now BUT I hope Apple will put expose back as a stand alone app.

regards

Jul 23, 2011 1:23 PM in response to delizaza23

@delizaza23


For item 1. The option is still there but the keyboard combo is different. In the Mission Control system preference, it's under 'Applicaion windows:'. The new combo is ctrl-arrow down. I've returned it to F10 on my old MacBook. Invoking that (or the new key combo) while in Safari will 'Expose' all active windows foe the app. This should apply to all other apps as well.


For item 2. Click and hold (or right click) on the app in the Dock and select 'Show All Windows'


It's still not great.but workable. Personally, I find MC to be a small bag of hurt and dislike the matted photo approach to it's appearance - very amateurish.

Jul 24, 2011 2:11 AM in response to delizaza23

delizaza23 wrote:


I also asigned photoshop to desktop 2 but asigned finder to desktop one. I went on desktop one and right clicked on an image open in photoshop BUT guess what althoug photoshop is asigned to desktop 2 but it has opened image in photoshop on desktop one.

This probably won't happen if there's already a window open in Photoshop.

Jul 24, 2011 7:52 PM in response to delizaza23

delizaza23 wrote:


ok guys please tell me this. You know how you right click an icon and click on show all windows. How do I create a shot cut for this.

If you're referring to right-clicking on a Dock icon, what you are seeing is show "Application windows" part of Mission Control. There is already a keyboard shortcut for that in:


/System Preferences/Keyboard/Keyboard Shortcuts/Mission Control. I've re-assigned it to F10 on my old MacBook.


The extra advantage that using the right-click in the Dock gives you is the ability to view all windows in an active but not in the foreground, application whereas the keyboard shortcut only works for the front most active one.

Jul 26, 2011 6:11 AM in response to tmsnnnz

I have been using mission control to try to get used to it but still have problems. THE BEST SOLUTION APPLE SHOULD DO IS. when in mission control exposing should expose the way it exposed before, I mean lets say you have 10 safari pages open, 4 finder and 7 key note open. when you go in mission control, you go over the the safari and when you swipe it exposes BUT IT DOES NOT SEPERATE THE 10 SAFARI PAGES CLEARLY. so what I am sayin is expose within mission control should seperate the pages clearly as before.

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