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Bring back old working Spaces and Expose

Mission Control is a complete misfire and several steps backwards in design and usability. They took something that was beautifully simple and nearly flawless and turned it into a chaotic mess for no reason.


I was a heavy user of Spaces and Expose and it was easily my favorite OS X feature hands down. Now it's been three days of Lion and I just avoid Mission Control at all costs and find myself switching apps instead, something I would expect from Microsoft, not Apple.


Trying to understand how to use MC without going insane I started simply swithing apps instead of thinking about spaces, and at least that made some sense, but there was still a lot of unnecessary changing of spaces back and forth for no reason. It dawned on me to try something: I killed all Spaces and have a single desktop with every window. You know, like Windows would do. As a testament of what a terrible idea MC is, it works a lot better this way. When you do Expose you can at least understand what you're looking at, and you don't care that the tiny Space thumbnail is being covered up by your windows. There's also no unnecessary shuffling between spaces. It's an obviously cluttered, primitive, step back in sophistication and usability that almost makes me wish I had Vista's Flip 3D, but at least I am not spending half of my time jumping between spaces and hunting down lost windows.


Here's some of the issues with Mission Control:


- It's visually confusing and messy. The application windows usually cover the Spaces thumbnails along the top. What is the point of showing me the Spaces if they're covered up with windows? Isn't that defeating the very point of Mission Control? Why do I need to see my desktop background inset within *another* background in MC? Why are the Windows stacked so tightly and messily? It's impossible to pick the window you want unless you do "App Expose". What is the point of having Spaces previews if they're so tiny you can barely see what it's in them anyway? They used to be nice, clean, large previews. Now it's a stupid mess of tiny thumbnails with drop shadows, text labels, multiple backgrounds, being covered by app windows... ugh.


- The fact that they are now a linear row of spaces along the top is clearly much less user friendly than the old grid method, which was spatially and visualy easy to use and memorize. Now I have to think about numbers for desktops instead of "up" or "down". You know how much easier it is to type numbers on a keypad versus pecking the linear numbers along the top of your keyboard? Same thing. Also, you could go into the old Spaces and accurately hit the Space you want to go to because they were huge, easy to read and remember targets. Now they're tiny, hard to remember and usually hidden under something else.


- It took the advantages of both Spaces and Expose and eliminated them in order to merge them, who knows why. You used to be able to go into Spaces, and then Expose while there to reveal every window, and find *any* open window in seconds. Now it's impossible. You have to shuffle haplessly through spaces and hit expose and hope the window you're looking for shows up, and if that fails, which happens often, then you have to switch to every application and hit app expose. What a mess.


Easy solution: Just bring back the old Spaces and Expose, maybe as an option to MC. Or at least give us the option fo a grid layout and old style Expose. Please. Please. Please.

Mac OS X (10.6.7)

Posted on Jul 23, 2011 12:49 AM

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Aug 11, 2011 6:23 AM in response to tmsnnnz

Mission control is the worse thing that has ever happened to me. I am not sure I can go on this way. C'mon apple. I know I complain everytime you change something, but this time I am complaining for REAL. I can't use my computer and I am feeling personally insulted. I don't know why you do this to me. Please fix it. My workflow is ruined beyond all repair. I know I used to complain about spaces all the time. But now I am complaining about Mission Control. I think MC could be the biggest problem faced by all computers. And I don't want to use it. The very fabric of computational reality is now experiencing existential angst. Not to mention I am not happy! I am feeling neglected by you Steve. If you don't do what I want I will go to Windows. How do you like that? And I might .... cry. Please, stop this madness.

Aug 11, 2011 6:21 AM in response to CT

Apple were spot on when they realised a handheld device operates and is used in a different way to a PC - that's why the iPhone was so great. So now they've lost that realisation foisting a handheld type interface onto the complexity of a workstation. Have they torn up their usability interface guidelines?

After a few weeks now and the realisation that i can't really roll back to SL, and that i couldn't stay on there forever, i'm considering moving to Win7 which at least caters for professional users.


Apple you're muppets.

Aug 12, 2011 11:14 AM in response to Ed Odin

Mission Control is terrible! I use Snow Leopard with spaces/expose for my workflow and will not buy Lion until they incorporate some way to better display multiple windows in the same application. While working, I often have 5-6 PDF files open, 5-6 Safari pages open, along with itunes/ical/things,etc. Mission Control would make it much more difficult to navigate between documents - I tried Lion in the Apple store and I couldn't believe how annoying it was when all the open windows in each document were stacked and overlapping in seemingly random fashion. Please, Apple, bring back a working expose!!! I also agree that having spaces in a grid is much more usable and intuitive than in a single row.

Aug 12, 2011 1:51 PM in response to steve281

Please, Apple, don't listen to them! Mission Control is workflow nirvana! These people just can't handle the Lion! They act like power users, but they're really power losers! They complained when you implemented multi-tasking! They are scared of the Lion! C'mon apple!


Go ahead and mark this baby as "answered"!!

Aug 13, 2011 10:52 PM in response to tmsnnnz

There are many functions missing from the new expose/spaces hybrid mission control...the whole thing feels gimmicky instead of solid well functioning design. But some people may like this feeling. The question is WHY can't we choose which version we prefer? Why kill the older version? Just let people choose...give them the freedom to decide which way they like to use their computers...people are different and a good software should not try to bend them into one way of working/thinking it should bend to their needs. (Strangely sometimes apple gets this (allowing to choose which way we scroll the normal way or backwards as they now introduced that in Lion). So why not have the same flexibility when it comes to spaces/expose??? Who would get hurt if they allowed such freedom?? Or who would write long blogs about demanding to take away this choice? More options and more choices people don't hate/fight...only fewer choices.

Aug 14, 2011 4:25 AM in response to tmsnnnz

Here Here, I agree- I used the old Expose and spaces a lot and now find Mission control confusing, unclear and unhelpful. Across two monitors the windows display across the top of both and is not as helpful to easily see whats going on where. The current window takes over most of the screen in Mission, and sometimes you cant move windows from one area to another.

It was brilliant Apple, its now useless Windowzzzz.

Dean

Aug 14, 2011 12:14 PM in response to woodmeister50

Interesting to see how after several of us describing patiently and logically why the old system worked better, all we get from a mission control fan is some kind of angry and pointless argument...basically saying linux is so flexible we can choose anything, except we can't choose what we want because that's gone "kaput. Very smart answer!


Enjoy your oversized iphone filled with cheap visual tricks, which used to be a mac computer...

Aug 19, 2011 3:52 PM in response to tmsnnnz

In addition to the issues I outlined in the original post - is anyone else also experiencing Mission Control crashes? On top of being a mediocre user experience, the things crashes my machine roughly 2-3 times a week. Nothing in particular triggers it, just moments when I have a lot of apps and windows open, I will go into Mission Control, and my Mac will just freeze. I can move the pointer but I can't force quit anything and can never get back to the finder. Nothing can be done but force a shutdown by holding down the power button.


As an added note - After restarting, my Mac crashes a second time in a row as it tries to open all the previous apps and windows and that makes it hang again. I have to restart a third time when Lion finally figures out it shouldn't open all the windows. Then it works again.

Bring back old working Spaces and Expose

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