Everybody settle down about Lion!

gvilla wrote:

I did find this very nice post while googling around.... http://www.eggfreckles.net/tech/burning-a-lion-boot-disc/

A word of caution: I burned a boot disk and it does indeed boot; however, it does not appear to contain a full install because it spent more than an hour "downloading additional components"; after that, the dialog changed to "installing" for about 34 minutes. My take from that is that it is much like the just released Recovery disk Assistant - more of a helper to get you booted and then downloads what it needs from the app store before proceeding with the install.

Further to my previous postings I now have my iMac back, hard drive replaced. Apple loaded Lion on to it. Said all was OK. It's not, the Lion problem still exists as before. With peripheral drives plugged in, whether FireWire or USB it keeps going to sleep and waking up almost immediately. I have checked and it was not set to go to sleep nor is it set to waken up if there is some sort of network access. So unless I keep all drives disconnected, not possible as data is on one and another is a backup, it seems like my new hard drive may wear out prematurely.

The other two problems remain - plug TIime Capsule in and it knocks out my WifFi and everybody's WiFi connection, and iCal does not sync.

The local Apple store knew nothing of the reported problems.

I foolishly believed that things couldn't get worse.

I just got this error from Time Machine:

Time Machine completed a verification of your backups. To improve reliability, Time Machine must create a new backup for you.

To improve reliability?

Basically, allowing this to happen will condemn a year's worth of backups (400GB) and commit me to this pile of garbage.

Where was the warning that this 'improvement' was featured in Lion?

@%$&!

Life is full of surprises and LION is full of"improvements" 😁.......That no one wants

I wanted to keep you up to date I posted this on the other discussion forum but I want your thoughts as well as the other Mac users about this iTunes matter as well as the rest of my investigation at the local Applestore. Here it is:I just got back from the Applestore in my area to test the iMacs both 27" and 21.5" to see what they do when put to sleep and then playing video both Flash and.mov. First of all let me preface my remarks by stating 2 things. First of all they erase their drives TOTALLY before they open. They then put in a new Disc Image of Lion on each and every Mac in the store that is on display. This was verified by one of the employees in the store. Before I started to inspect the iMacs I went to a MacMini and put it to sleep woke it up and played Flash and .mov using Quicktime10. It performed well. I then noticed that it did not have the latest version of iTunes. I questioned the same employee about this and he told me that it is to prevent someone stealing the tracks. This made me very suspicious. I believe Lion automatically installs the latest version of iTunes not 10.3.1. I went over to the iMacs. I put a 27" to sleep woke it up and played both a flash and a .mov using Quicktime10. No problems. I did the same with a 21.5" iMac. No problems. I then tried another 21.5" iMac and it froze! Nothing moved. I showed it to the employee and he shut the iMac down and started it up.There is something that makes me suspicious of the iMacs on display. Why don't they have the latest version of iTunes? I think they may be gimmicked up.

what if all the time machine stuff is missing now that ive installed lion ?

I found the perfect solution. After reloading the OS twice due to various errors, including one last night that caused every permission on the system to lock me out of writing to the drive, I reloaded once more and I'm now running Windows 7 on the bootcamp partition. No problems with that but what a shame about Lion. Everyone expects some bugs when a new OS is released but shame on Apple for releasing it before it was ready.

You have given me a thought. I wonder if it is iTunes that is causing the problem? I always have iTunes load on boot up so that I can use home sharing. Later today will try to see if the problems are there when iTunes is not runnng. That may be why your local store had the older version of iTunes.

I dont know about itunes but when I had Lion (I downgraded yesterday) my new Imac froze a few times in just one week. It froze when using google maps but in this case it would unfreeze after a while 2/3minutes and it froze at least 3 times when trying to see youtube or youtube video links in Blogs I read every day.

I just hated to constantly have to force shutdown and I am sure it was not healthy for my Imac

Oh BTW I never received the crash reports. I suppose In Lion you dont even have the option of reporting the crashes to Apple (or seeing them) it does it without your consent!!!!!

Did you check out the troubleshooting guide in Apple Support?

http://www.apple.com/uk/support/imac/intel/

I have Snow Leopard on my Macs. Does Lion install iTunes 10.4 automatically or do you upgrade? It is very strange that the latest version of iTunes isn't present on the Demo iMacs or any other Macs in my local Apple Store.

I have run mac hardware diagnostics and everything seems fine, I doubt its the hardware as its working fine now that I have downgraded to SL. It could be a codec issue or flash in Lion not working properly/incompatible. We need to wait till Apple sorts it out then I may upgrade (again) to lion if they give us options of turning off some of this new stuff, especialy autosave

With SL Its so peacefull and dependable again!!!!! it realy is a great OS

It did not install it automatically with me but when I had finsihed the install it then told me upgrades were needed.

I have now tried the computer without iTunes running and with one or more USB drives plugged in. It makes no difference, the iMac likes to go to sleep and wake up. So its not an iTunes problem. Think I now have two solutions:

1. Write to Apple as it has cots me £144 to replace the hard drive as the Lion problem will not have extended its life, quite the reverse.

2. Await the upgrade to Lion that has to be coming.

Odd that Apple ever released Lion when they did.

I concur but to get back to SL is a chore as I need to reformat my hard drive to remove Lion to reinstall SL and then load in all my software again.

Before upgrading to Lion make a clone of your SL installation, then install LIon on the clone, that way you can test without commiting. Once you're happy with Lion clone it to the internal drive.