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  • deloyd Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I started this post right after Lion came out.  I was dismayed, upset and filled with disbelief that Apple, once again, would try to save me from myself.  SAVE AS was basic, and integrated into software from every company that allowed a document to be modified.   I really believed Apple would see the many unhappy posts and quickly realize what a huge mistake they had made.  It made no sense to have versions and templates and multiple copies and several steps to do what one step did perfectly.

     

    Well, 2 weeks ago, I solved the problem and I now have SAVE AS back in my word processing life.  It was a simple fix, although it cost me a bit...I bought MICROSOFT WORD for MAC.  I have never been happier since I bought my first MAC...a time when SAVE AS worked, when I could alter an original document and make changes and save it while keeping the original with one fast and simple click.  And I can find my changed documents becaues I can put it exactly where I want to put it under the new client name or any place else to fit MY way of doing business.

     

    THANK YOU MICROSOFT...wake up Apple...Dont buy Pages or Keynote or Numbers...buy Microsoft Office

  • get2 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Ditto.  I did the same.  Won't bother with Apple's BS idea of how we SHOULD work anymore. 

     

    MS Office 2011 does not support the advantages of the 64-bit OS.  I haven't noticed any performance improvement in the 64-bit Pages or Numbers.  So you'll never notice.  But, it has SAVE AS!  Convert sooner, rather than later.  List formatting doesn't convert well.  Pages documents only print the outline format with no text!  Now I understand why Windows users  complained about problems associated with documents converted from Pages.  Will stick with MS Office.

  • fruhulda Level 6 Level 6 (15,120 points)

    If you have an earlier version than Pages 4.1, like 4.0.5 you will not trigger the auto save etc. in Pages.

  • Scarabus Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Others who're following this thread might want to consider Nisus Writer, either Express or Pro. I've been a fan since pre-OS X days. It's a lot cheaper; has a clean, efficient interface; is fast and non-bloated; and still includes more features than I can get my mind around. Also, if you're among those who care about such things, it's not Microsoft.

     

    http://www.nisus.com/pro/?gclid=CPi9k8C0ya8CFWpntgodDD-vZg

  • PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (32,935 points)

    So you are saying that Nisus has retained Save As in OSX 10.7?

     

    You have not been specific.

     

    Peter

  • Scarabus Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Good catch, Peter! Yes, that is what I'm saying. Sorry for being vague.

     

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  • PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (32,935 points)

    Good for Nisus and thanks for telling us.

     

    Now I wonder when Apple is going to get the message?

     

    Peter

  • Dave-the-Rave Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    A Hack to Get Back “Save As”

    I miss Save As. A lot.

    A common workflow for me was to open a previously saved document and use it as my template for a new document. I would make changes to it and then save it a as a new document. To Save As meant you took the document you were working on and saved it as a new document in its current state while discarding those changes from the original and leaving that original document as it was. I used Save As all the time.

    But in Lion, the ability to Save As is gone. Sadly, Command+Shift+S gets you nothing.

    In place of “Save As”, we now have “Duplicate”.1

    Duplicating means the document you’re currently using gets, well, duplicated. A new document window pops up and out of the original and now you have two. The new one gets named something like “my document copy” and now you have two documents open.

    If you Duplicate your file after you’ve already begun making edits to it then you’ll have the option to: (a) revert the original document back to it’s pre-edited state once you’ve duplicated it; (b) keep the current document as it is and duplicate it as well; (c) cancel.

    Duplicate File Options

    For the most part, Duplicate and Revert is the new Save As.

    In the end you mostly get the same result as what we used to with Save As, but this duplicating and reverting business always feels cumbersome to me. Moreover, it’s a little bit scary — it still catches me off guard and forces me to stop and think for a few seconds about what it is I’m doing. I used to just hit Command+Shift+S and have my new document based on the first in no time.

    And to add insult to injury, as a keyboard junkie it’s not just the removing of “Save As” that saddens me. It is also the removal of a very handy keyboard shortcut that I used many times a day: Command+Shift+S

    And so, by harnessing the power of Keyboard Maestro, I set up Command+Shift+S as a “Save As Hack”.

    • I set the macro to only run in Pages, Numbers, Byword, and TextEdit. These are the apps I use on a daily or near-daily basis.
    • With a keyboard shortcut of Command+Shift+S, the macro will select “Duplicate” from the File menu, choose “Duplicate and Revert” for the original document, close the original document, and then open up a Save dialog box for the new document.

    Download the macroIn essence, it’s an automated hack to get Save As and its keyboard shortcut back.You can download the macro here.


    1. The Save As menu option isn’t gone completely from the system, just only for apps that utilize new document features in Lion such as versioning and auto save. For apps I use the most often, Duplicate has replaced Save As in Pages, Numbers, TextEdit, Byword. However, for apps which have not updated for the new Lion features (such as Adobe CS3), the Save As menu item is still present.
  • Level 8 Level 8 (41,790 points)

    Wonderful, you are discovering what I delivered months ago.

     

    Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) lundi 23 avril 2012

    iMac 21”5, i7, 2.8 GHz, 12 Gbytes, 1 Tbytes, mac OS X 10.6.8 and 10.7.3

    My Box account  is : http://www.box.com/s/00qnssoyeq2xvc22ra4k

  • Dave-the-Rave Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    sarcasm is no better than ranting

  • fruhulda Level 6 Level 6 (15,120 points)

    Are you sure it is sarcasm? It can be read in a very positive way too.

  • Level 8 Level 8 (41,790 points)

    Hi fruhulda

     

    Is it surprizing to be puzzled when a tool doing what I delivered months ago is described a very positive way when I was said : we don't want a script, an extraneous tool to fit the gap ?

    A substitute of Save As was available for months. An other one is available now.

    Better too much than too less.

     

    Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) lundi 23 avril 2012

    iMac 21”5, i7, 2.8 GHz, 12 Gbytes, 1 Tbytes, mac OS X 10.6.8 and 10.7.3

    My Box account  is : http://www.box.com/s/00qnssoyeq2xvc22ra4k

  • Dave-the-Rave Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    ...you have a truly admirable perspective on life fruhulda - an artist I would guess!

  • fruhulda Level 6 Level 6 (15,120 points)

    Yes, I am an artist among a lot of other things! I can be very grumpy too but I try not to be!

  • Dave-the-Rave Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    just a thought - are we all aware that Duplicate can also be accessed directly from the window title bar?

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