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Web Process + Safari now hogging 50-75% more memory than Safari 5.0.5 did

Now that Apple has split Safari into two processes — Web Process (handles page loads and other traffic) and Safari (handles interface, bookmarks, history, etc) — these two processes together are using 50% to 75% more memory than Safari did before the upgrade to 5.1.


Three days ago, the most RAM I'd ever seen Safari hog (after several hours of surfing multiple tabs) was 1.1GB (still way more than it needed, once back down to 3 or 4 tabs).


Today, after surfing only an hour:


WebProcess 1.3GB

Safari 552MB


Anyone else seeing this? And anyone have ideas about limiting this memory hogging?

Macbook Pro 13, Mac OS X (10.6.4), 10.6.7

Posted on Jul 27, 2011 2:04 AM

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Apr 7, 2013 8:17 AM in response to Saxman

When I started to have the memory problem back then, I switched to Chrome, but the problem continued. Eventually I switched back to Safari and I'm still using it without any major issues, and I only have 4GB RAM.


The problem seems to be related to Flash and Java and certain website that abuse the use of these. To make things better I upgraded to the latest versions of both, but the problem would persist. Wat really helped a lot was the use of Glimmer Blocker, to filter those pesky, CPU and RAM consuming ads.


I also use SystemPal in case I need to recover any RAM that may have leaked out.

As a test, disable all JAVA, Flash and JavaScript, and you'll see your precious RAM doesn't disappear. Of course, at least JavaScript should be enabled, as it's required by many websites.

Apr 7, 2013 8:28 AM in response to johnfromplantation

Switched to Firefox 10 days back myself. Performance on my MBP has improved SIGNIFICANTLY. I have 8GB of RAM, of which I typically had ~300mb free with safari open, but with Firefix I have about 1.5 Gb available at all times; CPU usage has dropped from 60%-90% to less than 30% (unless I'm running Excel), and thanks to this battery life has improved too.


I didn't want to lose the look and feel of Safari because I think it's superior to any other browser out there, so I resisted the switch to Firefox for many months. I squarely blame Apple for driving me to this point by allowing Safari to slow my system to a crawl!


I think they aren't fixing the issue because they want to force Snow Leopard users to upgrade, but that ain't happening because I'm too much of a Mac/Desktop purist. I love iOS, but mobile features are best left on a mobile.

Apr 7, 2013 11:14 AM in response to Saxman

Thread originator here. I'm still on Snow Leopard and also still seeing problems with Safari hogging memory, but I'm still using it for personal surfing because there are certain features I can't give up, like using CMD+[number] for bookmarks in the bookmark bar rather than for switch-to-tab-number (which is a ridiculous use of CMD+[number] because you have to sit there and count how many tabs in a certain tab may be).


I use Chrome for work (mainly because I need multiple identities).


I use Postbox for email. It's not perfect, and getting support in a pain in the backside (the bug form is something like 4 pages long). But I tried just about every mail app available for Mac, and found it to be the best by far. Bonus: You can customize the **** out of it — something many Mac users aren't accustomed to in the Apple era of "just do it our way and don't worry your pretty little head."


/Apropos of nothing, I tried logging in to post this from Firefox on my Android tablet, and it kept telling me my password was wrong. Can't help but wonder if the Apple Forums are designed to be difficult for Android.

Apr 7, 2013 8:58 PM in response to 100 Watt Walrus

100 Watt Walrus wrote:


Thread originator here. I'm still on Snow Leopard and also still seeing problems with Safari hogging memory, but I'm still using it for personal surfing because there are certain features I can't give up, like using CMD+[number] for bookmarks in the bookmark bar rather than for switch-to-tab-number (which is a ridiculous use of CMD+[number] because you have to sit there and count how many tabs in a certain tab may be).


I use Chrome for work (mainly because I need multiple identities).



Coincidentally, Cmd+[number] was one of my most used features on Safari too, and I didn't make the move the Firefox until I was sure I could get that same functionality. There's an add-on for Firefox called 'Bookmark Shortcut Key' that replicates this Safari feature.


Also, Firefox allows multiple "incognito" windows like Chrome now too.

Sep 29, 2013 11:31 AM in response to 100 Watt Walrus

Are you listening, Apple Safari team?


Here's what we want:


An extension for the latest version of Safari that can be enabled in order to permanently TURN OFF prefetching.


I turned prefetch off using the terminal command I found on one of the discussion sites, but Google (Chrome pushers) keep turning it back on, and every time they do, Safari slows to a crawl just to load my homepage. The version of Safari running on my old 400 MHz Titanium powerbook loads faster. This is just sad. Do you know, the reason Google does this is to induce Safari userst to switch to Chrome on a permanent basis. I'll bet it works. I'm already thinking, my upgrade to Safari for Mountain Lion leaves something to be desired. Even fast quad processors can't compensate for sheer programming stupidity.


We DON'T NEED prefetch for 99% of internet browsing. What are the chances, any user will access even 1/3 of the links on a given page? Not much, so please KILL REFRESH. Make it easy for us. If it takes a new release of Safari in order to accomplish this, just DO IT.


That's my 2 cents worth. So if you disagree, you'll need to tell me why anyone ever needed prefetch. Like we also needed a dozen or so "free" toolbars, maybe.

Sep 30, 2013 12:11 PM in response to rahul.l

rahul.l wrote:

Coincidentally, Cmd+[number] was one of my most used features on Safari too, and I didn't make the move the Firefox until I was sure I could get that same functionality. There's an add-on for Firefox called 'Bookmark Shortcut Key' that replicates this Safari feature.


Also, Firefox allows multiple "incognito" windows like Chrome now too.


FF is always my third choice of browser. I've always found it combersome and slow — especially at startup.


And when I said I use Chrome for work, really I use Chromium — Chrome without the Google tethers.


FF does have multiple identities, but unless something's changed (I haven't used it in a while) you can't run them at the same time, or at the very least, you can't switch between them with CMD+~. I usually have between two and four different identies running in different Chromium windows simultaneously.

Dec 18, 2013 5:57 PM in response to DarkCrow

Yep, they keep telling us with every new upgrade in OS that a "new & improved" Safari will make our browsing once again a pleasant experience, yet time & time again, the same problems & issues remain..... Why should their native browser work well below those not produced by Apple? I can run Opera for days without it slowing, crashing, or it's web content suddenly rebooting, as I'm in the middle of something, but Safari, if I get a few trouble-free hours out of it, that's unusual.....

Web Process + Safari now hogging 50-75% more memory than Safari 5.0.5 did

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