Logic 9's UI extremely laggy - any fixes?

Anyone had similar issues with the new MBPr's?

lol Channel EQ? fsuhfuidhsiudh Channel EQ is causing problems? havent switched yet from Snow Leopard... man I need to demo another daw... Apple products are getting a little too scary... someone gave me the advice that the daw is gonna run at its best with latest update. This problem is ALOT worse than my problems right now. NO THANKS!

Adding my voice to the chorus..

After tracking and extensively editing a project in Logic 9.1.7 and Snow Leopard, I took some time off from it, and in the meantime- naively assuming all would be well- I upgraded to Lion and then to Mountain Lion. Then I resumed work on the project, intending to finalize the mix.

Much to my chagrin and serious annoyance, I found it was basically impossible to do any real-time manipulation of any plugin parameters (EQ and Comp) during playback due to the delays in responsiveness- which ranged from 10 seconds to indefinitely. Additionally, stopping playback while underway was impossible; often, I had to let the entire project finish before I could resume.

Thinking it was my problem only, I futzed around with the various buffer settings, muting non-essential tracks, closing plugin windows, switching from 32bit to 64bit etc etc- all with little effect..

Finally- after finding this and other threads and realizing this is a widespread problem, I booted to a Snow Leopard partition on an external drive which had Logic 9.1.7 installed and running in 64bit, and opened the same project.

It was like night and day- total responsiveness, no lags.. I can mix again! I tried it with multiple plugin windows open, playback underway, stopped playback when I wanted too..

So as far as I can tell- with my system anyway- the problem seems to be with something in 10.8 (and maybe 10.7), rather than the current version of Logic..

I'm very fortunate I can run SL on my machine, and I feel for those who are having this show-stopper issue who cannot. I've filed a bug report with Apple.

Mac Pro 3.33GHz 24GB RAM Ati Radeon 5870 1024MB

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Cannot wait to leave logic! it's about that time... Just waiting for that PT HD... Serious musicians shouldnt be on Logic

I would LOVE to see the top 10 most offensive messages sent via the Logic crash reporter 🙂

I often have to force-quit if I don't click the timeline before pressing play (after loading a project). It just hangs. Sigh.

I did the same though trying to work in Ableton I can not leave Logic, so downgraded to SL and definitely not moving anywhere not this time, not OS 10.9, not even OS 11 🙂

Cannot wait to leave logic! it's about that time... Just waiting for that PT HD..

You have no idea how happy I am that I got rid of my HD rig and now use Logic only...

After tracking and extensively editing a project in Logic 9.1.7 and Snow Leopard, I took some time off from it, and in the meantime- naively assuming all would be well- I upgraded to Lion and then to Mountain Lion.

I also had th elag problem in Mountain Lion, for a while, but it seems to have more or less disappeared all by itself. One of the things I did was to update my iLok drivers.

But the lag problem in M-Lion, and apparently also to some degree in Lion is apparently also present in Cubase. Maybe the problem with the increased snappiness in Mountain Lion comes from graphics having higher priority, or due to more background activity (eg updating Notifications etc).

If I'd have any severe problems with using Logic on a new OS version, I'd just install Snow Leopard on separate drive or partition and boot from there.

Serious musicians shouldnt be on Logic

They sure should, and many do - but it's quite common to wait some weeks or even months before updating the OS for proessional work (especially if one works with clients), in case some compatibility issues need to be sorted out.

They sure should, and many do - but it's quite common to wait some weeks or even months before updating the OS for proessional work (especially if one works with clients), in case some compatibility issues need to be sorted out.

Yes, and since my main gig is illustration w/ Photoshop, normally I wait at least a good 6 months into a new OS (and any new PS version for that matter)... Why I let my guard down this time w/ Logic I suppose 'cause it's not my direct income and I assumed since it's all Apple there'd be no problems. I was also lulled by the seamless transition with my projects from GarageBand to Logic.. I know better now!

So my workflow until further notice will be to boot into my SL drive when working in Logic, and anything else I do I'll reboot and work from my ML drive (all audio and projects are on a third separate drive) since as far as I can tell there are no other major problems with any of my graphics apps in ML..

Finally saw the problem on 10.8, had some EQs as well as third party plugins. Sent feedback to Apple.

I agree that for "serious musicians" the DAW isn't the issue, it's having patience on OS updates. Although that's not an option for anyone who needs to buy a new computer.

hypnotik wrote:

you ALL have the same problem whereas the real problem is the operating system or logic.

It sems that ayt last part of the problem comes from how Mountain Lion (and possibly Lion) deals with certain 'graphics situations', because this problem doesn't exist in Snow Leopard, and people have reported it gone when upgrading their graphics card. I have a 2008 Mac Pro, and douldn't run the current Final Cut Pro X demo, and got a message about needing a more powerful card when I tried. ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT 256 MB isn't good enough, and maybe "246 MB" is the problem for FCPX, and maybe a problem for Logic as well.

SInc Cubase users also report the same problem, this isn't a Logic problem. For some reason, my lag problem after upgrading to Mountain Lion seems to have decreased and doesn't happen often. I can, however, make it happen (if not immediately) by opening the Channel EQ, activate the analyzer and use the high-res mode.

This problem exist in Snow leopard , but its much harder to get it out. I can reacreate this problem in Snow leo but i will need to add much more ChannelEQ's and heavy AU's, and still its not that bad then Lion or ML. But it happens in SL too !)

ZXC wrote:

SInc Cubase users also report the same problem, this isn't a Logic problem.

Can you tell me where you've seen this posted, the only instances I've seen are for old versions of Cubase running under Mountain Lion. I just did a search of the Cubase forums and didn't find anything that resembled the behavior being described in these threads.

Pancenter wrote:

Can you tell me where you've seen this posted

I believe it was in some thread at gearslutz.com.

I found something interesting. I have two screens, one 24" and one 21". They were both set to "Best for this Screen" resolution. Setting them to a fixed resolution seemed to make the situation better, and so did setting them to the same resolution. Another surprising finding: If I opened a score window, and closed the Arrange window, the situation got better as well. The problem actually disappeared. So, having two screens, but no Logic window on one of them may possibly confuse Logic and make the situation worse. So - if the problem is that the Lions deal with updating the Arrange windows, and not (only) the Analyzer feature differently on Macs with only a 256 MB graphics card, maybe the solution is different than if the problem was only the EQs with the analyzer active.

I'm not 100% sure if the thing that helped with opening a score window was that I also closed the Arrange.

When I initially selected the "Best for Screen" resolution after having updated to mLion, the system became very unstable, and hardly booted after a restart: I had to wait a long time and watch a lot of blinking screens. Maybe mLion, and to some degree Lion, have some problems with two screens/two screens with different sizes/two screens with different resolutions that SL didn't have - or had vry little of.

But if temp. closing the Arrange window can be used as a workaround (I can still have several analyzing Channel EQs active, and edit them during play), the situation is a little less dramatic in terms of finding workarounds until a fix has been implemnted. And if all I need is to have another window open, possibly on another screen, and if it doesn't even need to be topped, the better.

Yes, same problem here in 9.1.7, feedback sent to apple

And by the way just to show you, going back to an older version certainly doesnt help either. I had a lingering 9.1.4 still and THIS is what happens on playback in that one. Yep, black vertical lines wherever i hit play. And this is on my new MBPr. Pretty sad ladies & gents.

Apple, is this what we should start to expect from you as you refocus on this iOS iDevice market?

Why have the admins removed hypnotik's recent posts? They were actually an attempt to find out what is going wrong with Logic and OS X and contained nothing offensive or contrary to forum rules!

This kind of behaviour from Apple is worrying. Even more so as it's a clear indicator that they do not intend to fix this problem and would rather it quietly disappeared. Which, sadly, it will if nobody here's allowed to mention it.