Logic 9's UI extremely laggy - any fixes?

I've been a pretty happy Logic user since 2004, but lately version 9 has been really cheezing me off. It seems that whenever I'm playing my current project, the user interface becomes completely unresponsive to key commands and mouse clicks, which will be delayed for many seconds, or ignored entirely.


This is a fresh install of Logic Pro 9.1.4, 32-bit, on one of the new Mac minis (dual 2.7GHz i7, 4GB RAM, stock 500GB hard drive), with a PreSonus FireStudio Project. However, this was also happening on my previous system, a 2008 15" unibody MacBook Pro. It was happening a little bit on Snow Leopard but it's gotten much worse under Lion. My MacBook had aftermarket RAM (8GB) and an aftermarket SSD, but everything in the Mini is stock.


It's happening even if I only have one or two tracks, although it seems to be worse if I have any of the various metering plugins running and open, or ChanEQ with the analyzer turned on. I wonder if maybe those plugins aren't handling UI updates correctly, or something.


Just to be clear, I have absolutely no third-party AudioUnits installed, and it's neither a CPU nor an I/O issue (both gauges are pretty much empty, and Activity Monitor shows Logic as taking about 10% of one CPU), and yet it takes anywhere from 3-10 seconds for a simple mouse click to go through.


This is getting EXTREMELY frustrating, especially since the lag seems to always happen at the worst moments (i.e. I'm trying to turn down the volume on a track which suddenly got really loud, and the lack of responsiveness means my ears get blasted and I have to take a break for them to recover before I can start mixing again).


Has anyone else been experiencing this and found a workaround? Is anyone at Apple even paying attention to these issues? I feel like it's the same problem that was being discussed in this thread, which was never resolved: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2396951


Message was edited by: robert113

Mac mini, Mac OS X (10.7), 2.7GHz i7, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD

Posted on Jul 30, 2011 7:31 PM

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Jan 6, 2013 5:50 PM in response to Scott Bradley2

Heya. Sorry... yeah, I went to somewhere like here - http://support.apple.com/kb/index?page=search&src=support_site.home.search&local e=en_US&q=garageband%20update and just downloaded and installed the latest version I could find. I read it somewhere in this thread, probably around page 18 or so. I don't and never have used Garageband but I had a big project on at the time and thought it was better than making excuses to a client...

Jan 25, 2013 4:27 AM in response to Fredo Viola

Yep, in line with Fredo Viola's response he got from Apple Support, the latest beta build of 10.8.3 is the first of the 10.8.3 beta builds that contains release notes (which in turn usually indicates that it is the build that will be going public soon)...


The thing to catch in the release notes is:


• A fix for an issue that may cause Logic Pro to become unresponsive when using certain plug-ins


Full release notes was posted at MacRumors (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=16720628&postcount=7)


Could this be it, then?

Jan 25, 2013 6:49 PM in response to SmokenSound

Different.


The bug is different now. Just loaded a Channel EQ analyzer set to low res, dragging, moving, eq points, nothing is smooth, but at least responsive (no need to wait seconds or minutes between each action), anyway the use of the analyzer cause logic whole interface + plugin to "freeze" / stutter.

Did the same procedure under SL 10.6.8 -> no problem all is smooth.


The biggest performance/user experience regression of DAW history!


Thanks Apple.

Jan 25, 2013 11:11 PM in response to zeugmatis

You'd think that with over $100,000,000,000 (100 billion) in cash reserves Apple could afford to hire a couple of programmers to sort this **** out. If fact, let's face it, they could hire a whole division of programmers. It really is simply not good enough on their part. The thing that really worries me though is that I'm guessing their answer will be - "they're all off working hard on Logic 10". Great.... except that for those of us who earn our living using Logic we know we daren't upgrade to L10 for AT LEAST six months - and that's if Apple have done a good job, unlikely given the currnet display of incompetence and ineptitude; which means we face 9 months to a year, at least, struggling on with L9 on SL - which unforuntately in my experience seems to get less reliable every time they patch it, or hoping they finally fix ML, which seems unlikely given all that has gone so far.


I have absolutely no desire to change DAWs - I have well over 500 tracks which are still relevant that I may need to load up in the future and I don't want to have to learn another system, it will take a while for me to get as fast as I am on Logic - but I also don't want to have many more days like yesterday - when I have to restart Logic half a dozen times in front of the client because "Memory is running low" and another couple because it suddenly thinks it's a toaster half way through playing a track, or a graphics animation program especially designed to display multi-colour spining balls... I see the look in their eyes evertime I have to do it - it isn't good for business, not to mention creativity, work flow, efficiency etc etc etc


I can remember when Presonus' Studio One was released thinking "there's no way they're going to get anywhere with a new DAW"... Just goes to show what you can acheive if you REALLY listen to your customers and to what they ACTUALLY want, rather than trying to tell them what you think they should want. A bit like a company called Emagic a while back....

Jan 25, 2013 11:42 PM in response to buddhistmarty

No, unfortunately not. I keep waiting for ProTools to stop being overpriced and underpowered - but it's never happened. More to the point, as someone who is a composer at least 50% of the time it's a pretty rubbish tool. (Granted I get a couple of jobs a year where people say - "have you got ProTools?", but when I say no they just sned me a bunch of Stems and don't seem to bat an eyelid.) Avid should also be congratulated on being the only company to actually have a worse attitude towards customers than Apple - which is quite an acheivement. No, if I was going to shell out that amount of money I'd go for the (ridiculously overpriced) Nuendo. But if Studio One can do everything I want and doesn't crash then why would I do that? It's only a tool after all...

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