Logic 9's UI extremely laggy - any fixes?

Can nuendo save your 500 Logic Pro tracks ?

That means u can open logic work file with nuendo?

Haha - if only... Now if all DAWS could load sessions completly from other DAWS that would keep the manufacturers on their toes...

Fluffy - that's a shame - I was kinda hoping Studio One was going to be the one to change that. Still, I have heard good reports from some pros so it might still be worth checking out. I believe the new 2.5 update brought a lot features and user requests to the table...

Steve would never have allowed this.

We already have cubase and reason, they need to get their **** together or people are going to move on. It can happen overnight. Once people reach that critical mass, then this program will become irrelevant - VERY quickly.

Please keep that in mind.

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We simply want to open the equalizer.

Would Steve let this happan.

Debian Linux.

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Basically, Studio One feels like how Logic and Cubase felt 10 years ago - fiddly, weird, and inconsistent.

Kind of like Logic under Mountain Lion today.

Logic 5.xx of 10-11 years ago was a fairly stable product on both PC and Mac.

Pacenter, I totally agree!

About other DAWs.. I read somewhere that ProTools isn't 64 bit, which is obviously a game changer. What I'm going to be trying out as an alternative app is Digital Performer. I have a lot of good friends who love this app, and say it's very stabile.

Anyway, very very disappointing about Apple. I agree that a healthy Steve Jobs would not have let this happen to their professional app. But keep in mind, it's a Mountain Lion issue that shows it's ugly effects not only in Logic, but I've also heard Reaper and Garage Band. And boy am I tired of having to turn off and on my Ensemble when the software crashes under Mountain Lion. The tech support at Apogee recently recommended as a fix that I install Snow Leopard!

Still can't wait for this update, and I hope it fixes all these problems. My sinking suspicion is it won't though. 😟

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Pacenter, I totally agree!

About other DAWs.. I read somewhere that ProTools isn't 64 bit, which is obviously a game changer.

The Protools boards seem concerned (obsessed) with ProTools catching up to 64-bit Nuendo which now uses a RAM cache to load most of the project into RAM, (if you have the memory) for incredible performance. Protools is losing some to the Nuendo camp. I guess the Nuendo audio engine is spectacuar, I'll soon get to see the new version as the University and local PBS studios are upgrading their systems soon.

If anything, Logic users should be concerned that the Logic engineering team had to convince the OSX developers there was a problem. That doesn't bode well. OSX is no longer a lean/mean operating system and it seems the eye candy just keeps getting piled on while performance drops. I don't know enough about programming but it seems Retina support has added considerable graphics overhead.

I think you've both hit the nail on the head there - it's an OSX issue rather than a Logic issue per se; which is actually even more worrying - as the chance of them getting those billions of lines of code sorted seems even less likely. I remember when Windows XP came out (using Logic 5.xx - as someone else said, still probably the most stable version ever produced) and the first thing we all did was go into control panel and turn on all the pointless eye candy and new looks to get back the lost performance, and have a clearer interface. Lion and Mountain Lion seem so un-apple in so many ways to me. Their whole history has been built on practicle, clear GUIs that are a pleasure to use - and now we have icons that are grey, grey and grey, loads of stuff we are really need and want missing, and loads of crap we don't clutering the place up and draining overhead.

Soon (no, make that now!) , we're going to need one of those clever programmers back from the windows days - who would work out loads of hacks and mods to turn off all the crap we didn't want and that got in the way of the the music software that was running... What a sad that of affairs. And to think, on the strength of 10.4 my one MacBook has become 2 Mac Pros, MacBook Pro, MacBook, iPAD and 3 iPhones... Sad... I might have to go a say 100 hail-mary's but has anyone used Windows recently??

I have a single quad-core processor Mac-Pro (Snow Leopard) & A Quad core PC I built running windows 7, they are lightpiped together 8 channels going either way depending on what machine I use as a master. I still have a rack of hardware synths and a MIDI patch bay. I'm mostly back to playing these days but I had a great run with PBS & NPR 1993-2003.. then funding dried up. I still do some things but nothing like before.. it's not as fun now anyway, plus I'm closing in on retirement age and it's too expensive to keep everything current.

Windows 7 is wonderful for Audio/MIDI use, I can use less I/O buffer and still have more efficient CPU use. I fear Win-8 will be another do-all OS loaded down with a slew of background processes.

My only experience with Lion and ML was upgrading on two different client's machines, they're both back with Snow Leopard.

There's a program on Win that allows one to check the DPC Latency of their machine, using this program I tweaked Win-7 until it's extremely efficient with real-rime tasks.

The 13 number is extremely low showing this machine has been optimized for audio video... it never burps.

The operating system maintains DPCs scheduled by device drivers in a queue. There is one DPC queue per CPU available in the system. At certain points the kernel checks the DPC queue and if no interrupt is to be processed and no DPC is currently running the first DPC will be un-queued and executed. DPC queue processing happens before the dispatcher selects a thread and assigns the CPU to it. So, a Deferred Procedure Call has a higher priority than any thread in the system.

Note that the Deferred Procedure Call concept exists in kernel mode only.

I've heard that the fix is coming in ML, but unfortunately also heard that some plugins will still cause lag. We shall see... Trying to keep really positive, as Logic Pro is one of my favorite apps.

It's about time plug-in developers start accessing the power from the graphics card anyway. Especially if the synth/effect is graphically intensive. FabFilter updated theirs recently ...not a single lag. Pro-Q's analyzer for example is amazingly smooth and beautiful because of it.

EVERYONE! I have found something that worked for me. I recently upgraded to Mountain Lion (in hopes that all bugs would be fixed) only to find that it pretty much rendered my Logic Pro useless with lag. So, after a good deal of forum searching, I found this link that tells you how to start Logic as a Root instead. It's very easy to do and I haven't had any major lag issues yet. I suggest, if you are still having this problem, giving this a shot.

http://osxdaily.com/2013/02/06/how-to-run-gui-apps-as-root-in-mac-os-x/?utm_sour ce=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+osxdaily+%28OS+X+Daily%29

To simplify the instructions... go to you your Applications. Right click on Logic Pro. Select "Show Package Contents." Go to contents/MacOS/Logic Pro. The "Logic Pro" should be an executable (exec). Double click on that. It'll run a terminal which will boot up Logic. Done deal. I then made an alias of the executable and put it on my desktop.