Logic 9's UI extremely laggy - any fixes?

I've been a pretty happy Logic user since 2004, but lately version 9 has been really cheezing me off. It seems that whenever I'm playing my current project, the user interface becomes completely unresponsive to key commands and mouse clicks, which will be delayed for many seconds, or ignored entirely.


This is a fresh install of Logic Pro 9.1.4, 32-bit, on one of the new Mac minis (dual 2.7GHz i7, 4GB RAM, stock 500GB hard drive), with a PreSonus FireStudio Project. However, this was also happening on my previous system, a 2008 15" unibody MacBook Pro. It was happening a little bit on Snow Leopard but it's gotten much worse under Lion. My MacBook had aftermarket RAM (8GB) and an aftermarket SSD, but everything in the Mini is stock.


It's happening even if I only have one or two tracks, although it seems to be worse if I have any of the various metering plugins running and open, or ChanEQ with the analyzer turned on. I wonder if maybe those plugins aren't handling UI updates correctly, or something.


Just to be clear, I have absolutely no third-party AudioUnits installed, and it's neither a CPU nor an I/O issue (both gauges are pretty much empty, and Activity Monitor shows Logic as taking about 10% of one CPU), and yet it takes anywhere from 3-10 seconds for a simple mouse click to go through.


This is getting EXTREMELY frustrating, especially since the lag seems to always happen at the worst moments (i.e. I'm trying to turn down the volume on a track which suddenly got really loud, and the lack of responsiveness means my ears get blasted and I have to take a break for them to recover before I can start mixing again).


Has anyone else been experiencing this and found a workaround? Is anyone at Apple even paying attention to these issues? I feel like it's the same problem that was being discussed in this thread, which was never resolved: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2396951


Message was edited by: robert113

Mac mini, Mac OS X (10.7), 2.7GHz i7, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD

Posted on Jul 30, 2011 7:31 PM

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Feb 19, 2013 3:28 PM in response to pthomasz

I myself find it much more fruitful spend a little more time in the alternative DAW.

May it be ableton, cubase, protools or DP.

The Live8.4 beta is more rock solid than so called logic 9.1.8. (Not even a beta)

The move apple cutting price for logic is simple.

They no longer developing this software and squeeze a little bit more than general lay public.

Maintain your musical sanity, time to go.

Feb 20, 2013 12:40 AM in response to fluffy

I fear you may be right. However, it's not such an easy decision for all of us. Having changed from Logic on a PC in 2005 I've spent the last 7 years investing a lot of money in Apple kit. As a professional composer and mixer my only choices would be Cubase/Nuendo or maybe Studio 1. But if I go that route it won't be on a Mac; I'll be extracting maximum ROI by building by own PCs like I always used to. But that will mean getting rid of 2 Mac Pros, a 13" Mac Book, a 17" MBP, 2 iPhones and an iPAD. And changing a huge amount of other non-music software in my daily work flow back to PC.


Here's hoping apple can actually manage to focus and make an OS thank actually a) works and b) delivers an efficient user driven environment in 10.8.3 (like 10.4 used to) - Hopefully that's why they are taking sooooo long beta testing it. And here's hoping that regardless of whether Logic X ever appears they make Logic 9.1.x work properly under ML - so the professionals amoungst us can actually carry on earning a living while they develop Logic X to the point where it's viable to use for the professional comunity.

Feb 20, 2013 2:14 AM in response to buddhistmarty

Over the last 3 months I've just gotten so repulsed by Apple's treatment of their pro-market, the one that made them in the first place.


As a result and looking with envious eyes at peers using Ableton Live, I purchased it in the first week of January. They also let you get started immediately on the Live 9 Beta, which, although there is not Retina support (minor complaint), its 100% more stable and solid than Logic on Mountain Lion. Hilarious as you'd THINK apple products could never be beaten on their own platform.


I have already finished 2 projects in Live, and although I do have a handful of projects still past that "point of no return" in Logic (so Ill have the finish those in Logic), I am loving working again being in Live.


I highly suggest starting to at LEAST investigate all of your options. As I really feel there will be NO Logic X, and possibly at this point, NO new Mac Pro. Totally speculative though.

Feb 20, 2013 2:40 AM in response to seantyas

Man, this *****. I have Ableton already and really don't like it. I just got a copy of DP but it's reminding me of what I love about Logic Pro.


There definitely is a Logic X, btw. Whether they release it or not is up for debate I suppose, but I know it exists. But I don't want Logic X! I just want Logic 9.1.x working perfectly! I mean, I'd like Logic Pro to continue being developed, but hope with all my heart that they don't try to change things up too much with the new version (again if it is released.) Whenever they make dramatic changes there is always a rather long period of user-bug testing.


It really does seem like Apple has forgotten about their professional users, which is so ironic, considering we were a big part of what kept Apple alive for so long. I can remember in the 90s made fun of for being a passionate Mac-user. And in fact, it was difficult because so much 3rd party software was not Mac-friendly at all.


Anyway, however it goes, we'll all survive.

Feb 20, 2013 7:31 AM in response to Fredo Viola

Yes, there are sooooo many things I really love about Logic, which is why I haven't made the switch yet. The deciding factor for me will be if Logic X is a blend of Garage band and Logic 9 (like Final Cut X was Final Cut Pro and iMovie). If that happens... I am out. I compose and do sound design professionally and I can't afford to downgrade or stay with 9 as it slowly becomes out of date. I would say Apple needs to remember those of us who helped them get to where they are but even if they did, they probably wouldn't care. We aren't their market any more.

Feb 20, 2013 8:42 AM in response to pthomasz

If we are not logic lovers, we won't end up talking about it in here. But let's face the facts. The reason why we have GarageBand in every living Mac is Steve Job, no matter they like music making or not, which is a funny phenomona. The reason why Emagic was taken over was Steve. As long as this characteristic strong man still alive, we can have a safe platform to make music. But this Era ended whether we like It or not. The direction now is commercial and stability for Apple. Please refute me for any wrong messages mine.


Third party DAW make software for Mac and PC, certainly they will comply as much as they can to make it compatible. Or else they are out of business. As for logic. It's a pain in the "S" to Apple. So much business priority. Audio alwAys takes lastly. Correct me if I am wrong.


Still thankful to laggy logic. I need open up my mind for more other DAWs potentials.

Feb 20, 2013 3:10 PM in response to fluffy

I am very interested in seeing if this gets resolved as I think I may be having a similar problem, but I am not 100% sure.


I recently purchased a 2012 mac mini, 16 gigs of ram, fusion drive, 2.6ghz intel core i7 and have experienced gui lag in my DAW Studio One V2.


At first I thought it was a plugin I installed that caused it so I decided to start from the beginning and test Studio One as I installed each plugin to figure out specifically which plug was causing the problem.


Sadly, upon clean install with nothing other than Studio One and the OS included software, I am still having gui lag in an empty project with nothing open. I am very dissapointed with this Mini purchase so far. I've spent just as much time trying to fix problems with this Mac as I did with my Windows 8 pc that I ditched in hopes of less debugging and configuration. It's pretty sad that In 3 weeks of having the machine I've had to work on more problems than the entire time I've had my 2006/2007 white macbook (currently running 10.6)....that's over 6 years.


Basically what is happening to me is whenever I click on an in-active or non focused gui window such as the mixer, the instruments panel, the piano roll/editor, or other windows, there is a deIay of up to 3 seconds before the window activates and then jumps to the current location of the mouse pointer. It is very frustrating and time consuming to sit through each click for a few seconds waiting for the window to begin moving where I need it to and it kills the groove you get into. I am also seeing that other users are having similar issues on the Studio One forum. I have contacted presonus for help, but nothing yet.


Hopefully apple releases this update that fixes your problem and maybe by some long shot whatever they change results in better performance with S1v2.

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