1 OSX Lion Mission Control vs Snow Leopard Expose can't we combine the two (by leaving older Expose options inside) and get Apple back to leaping forward again?

I agree. Thankfully moving to Snow Leopard is an option/improvement.

Here's a video to further support your case...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktTNcj0fAM4

...shame it's the past, rather than a preview of the future.

I had set a number of apps to open by default in specific spaces. A way of orgnaizing what I normally do. I find that in Mission Control the apps still want to be in the specific spaces/windows. I just do not see a way to change the defaults or to move an app completely if I want a perminant change. Am I missing something?

You can assign apps to default spaces by right clicking on the app in the dock and under "Options" > "Assign To:" select the space you would like it to open in by default.

An application can be assigned to a space - HOWEVER MSSION CONTROL MOVES THE SPACES AROUND making it difficult to predict where the application exists.

This causes an inefficent work flor.

Going back to Snow Leopard for Spaces

OMG - de ja vieux of Vista upgrades to XP

It's very frustating. I have three spaces and Lion always moves my third space to the middle!

IXXIGolfer wrote:

An application can be assigned to a space - HOWEVER MSSION CONTROL MOVES THE SPACES AROUND making it difficult to predict where the application exists.

This causes an inefficent work flor.

Going back to Snow Leopard for Spaces

OMG - de ja vieux of Vista upgrades to XP

Just go into Mission Control System Preferences and turn that option off.

i think i may go back to snow leopard just so i can use the origional expose/spaces.. what the **** are apple doing?

LJJX wrote:

i think i may go back to snow leopard just so i can use the origional expose/spaces.. what the **** are apple doing?

I went back to Snow Leopard on all but one of my Macs. It's much better than Lion and my preferred option for doing serious work.

Absolutely. If we could just have the All Windows in mission control, and alsobe able to click and move applications in the "Desktop thumbnails" then all would be fine. Or maybe even, just keep the all windows feature, like they've kept the "applications window" feature. It can't be that difficult.

For the extremely fast mouse swipe and single click selection experience of "all windows" you now have

to go to mission control and then do a "quicklook" (for that read "slow look") on the windows in a stack in mission control by moving the mouse over the window and pressing the space bar, then pressing it again to get it to go away, and then again to see the next window, and so on and so on, until you *eventually* get the

window you are looking for. This is in *no way* an improvement.

Now, I for one would be perfectly happy witht having an "application windows" feature for all the windows in a stack just by howering over the stack. When you do an "all windows" you know what application you are looking for, so having to move to the mouse to the stack for correct application and then to see only those windows would actually be an "all windows" improvement since the windows would be bigger, without the windows from appliocations you are not interested in and the amount of mouse movement would be no greater. It is all the uneccessary clicking and keyboard interaction that is annoying me. As it is, hovering the

mouse shows a blue line around the window, so why not just have it do a quick look instead of needing the

actual space bar press?

Oh, and by the way, before any one posts, yes I know I can *almost* get the "applications windows" experience

on a stack with a two finger swipe, but the windows don't open up enough to see what is going on, and doing a two finger swipe is as much work as a mouse click if you are just moving the mouse around. Just open them up them up completely when the mouse is over them is what you want.

I completely agree with airbnboy. I used to be able to quick organised different windows within the same app to different spaces (now "desktops" for no apparent reason). This worked very smoothly in expose/spaces. I'd use one gesture to get to spaces, then another for expose, and I'd have all my windows in all spaces visible.

Now, I can't even see all of my windows in specific to one desktop! The best I can do is double scroll to see *some parts* of the windows on a desktop. So now, selecting a window for a specifc app is huge pain.

Worse than this, on moving windows from a desktop to another in, Mission Control will change the ordering of the stacks (per app, not the windows in the stacks). Umm, what is the possible benefit there?

So, now there is no use of spatial memory - e.g. Window X for App Y was in the top left of all my windows in the top left space, and I want to move it now. It's no longer possible to see all app windows in a specific "desktop", and much more effort is required to move windows around.

Great, well done Apple. Can we please, please have Expose and Spaces back as an option? Or at the very least, some way to view all windows for a specifc app on a specific desktop - and by "view", I mean see the whole window, not just a tiny indicator of the window, or a slightly expanded stack that may not give enough context.

The only reason I "upgraded" to Lion was to get XCode 4.2.

My opinion has changed as I've used Mission control more, and since the updates that Apple have made after I first joined this discussion. I have a suspicion that this might be becuase I'm using a Magic Track pad on my iMac and the normal pad on my MacBook Pro; the various four finger gestures make navigating Mission Control easy. For example, four fingers down shows me all the windows in the current app - which is what I think Croysk is struggling with.

Are other people using Mice?