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Apple Mail, Searching is worse!

I thought Apple Mail searching for emails was suppused to be easier, so far it is worse!

I may be missing something and hope I am, but when I type a name of a person "Smith"....

...I cannot find/sort by sent?

...I cannot find/sort by Name

...I cannot find/sort by Subject

On occasion I see a blue highlighted: sort by Name, but that is about it.

It is really bad and worse than Office 2011 and worse than SL's Apple Mail.

Thx much for any help you can provide.

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7)

Posted on Aug 5, 2011 12:44 PM

81 replies

Satchmo

Level 4

1,290 points

Aug 14, 2011 11:01 AM in response to Fred Davenport

Glad to here it, Fred. Have you tried repairing permissions for the unexpected quits?

Aug 14, 2011 1:18 PM in response to Satchmo

My bad for sending you all was good with the Sent Mail files. Just checked and now they are all gone.

This really, really s---ks

Any suggestions...

On the Unexpected quits, how do you do that?

Would much prefer to have all my sent mails be seen in this new sooper doopa Lion Mail.

Hope the Zookeepers can fix Lion.

Thx much

Satchmo

Level 4

1,290 points

Aug 14, 2011 1:25 PM in response to Fred Davenport

You aren't under warranty or Apple Care? I'd sure call them at this point, or go to an Apple store.

Aug 15, 2011 7:33 AM in response to Satchmo

Thx Satch,

I need a good song to cool me off :-) How about "Throwing Stones" by the Dead :-)

Just did the work-around again by moving the envelope.index file to my desktop and as Mail was importingall my mail files (in-sent-deleted etc.). I got an error message saying the my mail files are bad/corrupt.

This also happened last week, after I tried this for the first time and after trying it again all was fine.

Going to try this gain, to see what happens.

Meanwhile back to Outlook 2011, would much rather use Mail, which I like so much more (when it is working properly!)

Satchmo

Level 4

1,290 points

Aug 15, 2011 7:46 AM in response to Fred Davenport

Did you ever use Mailbox > Rebuild? No Dead, but some Jess Roden.

Aug 15, 2011 8:03 AM in response to Satchmo

Good tune, thx

Will Give that a try.

Do you rebuild from within the Mail app, or can you do that from outside mail.

Not sure exactly how do do that. I am currently opening mail again and it is now importing my 99,000+ messages.

Fred

Satchmo

Level 4

1,290 points

Aug 15, 2011 8:10 AM in response to Fred Davenport

99k? Maybe life would be better if they were all lost. :-)

From the Mail.app menu. Mailbox > Rebuild.

At least that is how I think Geraint Watkins would do it.

Aug 15, 2011 4:46 PM in response to Satchmo

Thx Satch,

I am am now using Outlook 2011 again as Mail is totally unpredictable and unreliable.

Simply amazing that the new features of Lion DO NOT include seeing my "sent" emails.

Really ashame that the zookeepers cannot control the Lion.

Fred

p.s. maybe you should send the Fred Flintstones theme music to Cupertino :-)

Satchmo

Level 4

1,290 points

Aug 15, 2011 5:18 PM in response to Fred Davenport

The maddening thing is that all users are not affected in the same ways and to the same degree. I still seem to be having no problems after my phone fix from tech support. If you did a clean install if might eliminate the problem, but people suggest that like its as simple and fun as picking your nose.

You tried the rebuild?

Aug 15, 2011 7:14 PM in response to Satchmo

Satch,

Thx Much and yes I did the rebuild. I think that me and Mail do not get along...wish we did as when it is working properly, it is light years ahead of Outlook 2011, but it just cannot work properly for any reasonable period of time.

Will continue to check in here for any suggestions and upgrades, but in the meantime "I have given up" and will stick with Outlook 2011 for a while.

Keep the good tunes coming...

Fred

Satchmo

Level 4

1,290 points

Aug 15, 2011 7:36 PM in response to Fred Davenport

Sorry it hasn't worked, Fred. But don't lose hope. It is a wonderful world.

zconger

Level 1

5 points

Aug 16, 2011 9:10 AM in response to Fred Davenport

Please count me among the frustrated! I cannot figure out how to search for a keyword in the sender, or "From:" field. I get emails from a monitoring service call Nagios, and the emails come from nagios@this.derp.com, nagios@that.derp.com, nagios@theother.derp.com, etc. I never send to those addresses, so they don't show up as "people" in the search drop down box when I type in "nagios." And even if they did show up as people, what I really need is to find all messages with the word "nagios" in the sender field, so I can grab them all and delete them or put them in some folder.

Aug 16, 2011 9:15 AM in response to zconger

So you can't search the "From" field! I noticed this too, and like the last poster, it has created some real difficulties locating emails.

Why on earth would Apple remove this??

Aug 16, 2011 11:19 AM in response to marysplacestudio

Z & Mark,

Sorry to hear about your fristrations, but happy that I am not the only one. I am also having HUGE issues with my sent mail files, as they do not show up at all.

Something is terribly wrong.

Please be sure you also send a note to feedback.

http://www.apple.com/feedback/

Fred

Satchmo

Level 4

1,290 points

Aug 16, 2011 11:20 AM in response to marysplacestudio

The ability to search From and Sent has not been removed. The inability is just one of the charming bugs some people are experiencing, as I was until Apple tech support gave me the aforementioned help. Maybe what helped me will help you.

Even working properly, I'm not fond of the changes made to Mail.app, but perhaps their virtues will be revealed in time. Or maybe they are an example of change merely for the sake of change.

Apple Mail, Searching is worse!