I bailed on Lion

Well said Toilet. Your use of Mumbo Jumbo followed by a good dose of Hocus Pocus, and Gobbledygook has lead this reader to transform his iMac into a magically use - less machine. I hardly ever notice that people handling large spreadsheets now have time to light up a smoke every few minutes while they are waiting for the auto save function for finish. Focus, focus.

I'm over Lion. I want to go back to Snow Leopard. I'm having so many issues and it's pretty overwhelming when you're trying to do work.

Anyone have any tips on the best way to downgrade without throwing the cat across the room?

> tips on the best way to downgrade

If you don't care about the 680 MB of the recovery HD, just reboot with CMD+R and wipe Macintosh HD with diskutility then choose "Restore from TM backup" and you are back to SL (provided you still have a TM backup from SL).

If you don't have a backup, it's booting from a SL install disc, wiping the HD, installing SL then installing all your additional software (you may need their install mediums/files too).

Well I have four Macs...

My two are a 2008 intel MacPro and a 2010 MacBookPro core i7 15". For both machines I simply downloaded and installed Lion.

My MacPro started to have some issues one of which was waking up from sleep. Also I lost compatibility with my audio hardware (apogee duet). After thinking about it I decided to try a complete reformat and fresh load of Lion. Prior to installing Lion I'd done a superduper backup of my boot drive so I can go back to snow leopard as of almost the instant before lion.

Well the fresh install did wonders. Sure I had to reinstall many things... I worked on my laptop as it ground its way through install disks and online installers. But now my MacPro is stable and seems to just work. I am having some issues. Logic does like me tapping the stop button. My Duet is still DOA until Apogee comes out with a new driver. But everything else is fine. The only issue I'm having on my fresh MacPro install is that iCal is not correctly updating with MobileMe. Thats a little frustrating but I can use my iPhone or iPad calendar for a bit till they sort that one out.

I read with horror the threads about MBP 15's just like mine crashing. Well mine is not. It's working nicely. I do think I might do a clean wipe and install but not for a while. So far so good.

As far as Lion and the "features"... personally I took to them right away. I love many of the new features and gestures. I do have to say LaunchPad could use some refinements. I have too many apps installed for it to be useful. I want to be able to make the icons much smaller. But in general I love mission control AND I've found with the right settings you can make it act almost like the old spaces. Things are just in different places but they are there.

Like any major OS upgrade this one has its minor issues. And to the people that just can't deal with it, the advice to wait for .1 or .2 is valid. So far I like it and I'm enjoying it.

Totally agree with op here. So far i hate the osx lion, and will be going back to snow leopard. First of i hate the ios impementations. I hate ios, (i have an ipad 2 that i would like to sell, and buy a android that lets you do what you like, but that is not the issue here) i have a late 2010 macbook pro 13" with 8 gb memory, intel ssd 160 gb 2 generation, and the new mac mini 2,3 ghz with 8 gb ram. And it is so painfully slow on both my setups. The thinking ball comes up when ever i do things like open finder, safari, ical, itunes and so on. This goes for both the mbp and the mini. It is worst on the mini tough, but it is not the way it is suppose to be. I have done fresh installs on both computers. First sl on the mbp and then lion. And the same is the same. So i have sendt an mail to get refund on the lion, and will be going back to snow leopard on the mbp, and will try to downgrade from lion on the mini if i can make it work.

Last but not least, my thoughts about this is MY thoughts, other can say what they would like. It is slow for me, and the is nothing wrong with my setups.

Just my thoughts about what i think is apples vista.

Well, my Mac book pro late 2010 is the first mac I have owned. I will say that I liked Snow Leopard. I am a big fan of Unix and this is what drew me to buy a Mac. I installed the Lion upgrade and everything went to crap. I had a lot of trouble with too many things to list here. But, I found that there were two issues that caused the problems I was having. One, I had to un-install my Eset anti virus prior to upgrading. Two, I had to un-encrypt the home folders I encrypted using File vault prior to upgrading.

I have Lion running now and it is working well, I just had to tweek out (turn off) some of the features that I did not like. There are always going to be a few bugs, it will be resolved.

After the 1st upgrade of Lion, when I had all the problems. I had to erase the drive and re-install Snow Leopard and make sure everything was updated prior to the 2nd Lion upgrade. Now, it is running great : )

I guess it would be better to do a clean install of the Lion OS, upgrades are always a bit buggy. No matter what OS you are upgrading.

I had mixed feelings about Lion at first. But the more I used it and the more I understand it, the more I like it.

My wife's MBP boots faster and generally works better with Lion.

I'm using 15" i5 2.4ghz 4GB MBP from 2010.

I thought Lion was great at first, until my comp started slowing down. I can deal with slowed performance, but what frustrated me the most is the glitches I get in iMovie now. I get weird distorted lines whenever I put video through iMovie. Even old clips that were playing fine before are now distorted on iMovie. To see an example of the distorted lines I am talking about, check out this clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DegQa5Azgs

So far, no one has been able to help. Anyone have a clue?

Lion's fan noise frightened me no end. Installing Snow Leopard back.

Thanks this actually worked for me. They're investigating but I'm getting my refund.

How did that work for you? I can't find the purchase history. I log into iTunes store, and look at "Purchased" at the left side bar. However, I do not see a "See All" option. All I see is a song I downloaded from iTunes.

Help please?

You need to log into the APP STORE... not the iTunes store.

I am amazed. After 5 years with Apple not only is Lion a failure, apple did not notify me of all of the software that would no longer work once I added Lion, that has never happened before. What a shame, both a poor replacement for Leopard, and a black mark against apple for poor communications

Yep, well, I have to join the Lion haters too although, I was lucky cos I only installed it on a small Boot Camp partition of Snow Leopard just to try it. Regardless of all the new funky features, some of which I really do like, it is the fact they dumped Front Row that killed my experience. My beloved 24" iMac is my main media center and sitting back flicking through my media collection via remote is one of my favorite uses, but they killed it citing it was unpopular with users? Well, not this one!

Sorry Apple! I give Lion a big thumbs down and a wide birth.