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Peter Coleman Author

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195 points

I bailed on Lion

I've been with OSX since the beginning. Each iteration a step forward. This one is not...

- Mission control is a fail - expose was much easier to understand and use

- Launch pad is a fail - much easier to use the application folder in the dock as list (yes, like Windows does)

- UI graphics are sketchy, they're slow and add nothing to the overall experience

- Versions is a step back - it assumes I want to save everything I ever create when in fact, it's the opposite (I like to save the drafts that mean something to me), so now I have to close windows one at a time and discard each window (vs. just closing the app and being asked if I want to discard)

- Safari keeps all these windows open - I often surf with a large number of windows open, closing is the easiest way to rid myself of them... but now Lion thinks it knows how to work better than me, so it just keeps re-opening them - forcing me (not the application) to close each one

- It's not stable ... for the first time ever, I can't believe I'm saying this about my Mac - I don't trust it, when waking from sleep it takes forever, I login and can be logged right back out (no disernable reason); my Wi-Fi connection drops for minutes at a time; mission control can't display things in a consistent manner

At end of day, I reverted back to Snow Leopard. It's the right thing for me to do. They (glitchy) eye candy and "I know better than you what you want to save, open, and display" attitude of Lion is just intrusive. It's a step backward.

And reverting back to Snow Leopard - what a pain. Not sure how others are doing it, but I couldn't install from the Snow Leopard in Lion; I had to backup all files, start up with the Snow Leopard Disk, erase my hard drive, then reinstall Snow Leopard. And I got the pay $29.99 for that experience. Just not what I had in mind when I saw the improvements.

Anyone else step back into Snow Leopard? After a week of Lion, was a pretty easy decision for me.

Posted on Aug 5, 2011 3:19 PM

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softwater

Level 5

5,556 points

Jan 17, 2012 2:16 AM in response to Yer_Man

Terence Devlin wrote:

Er...

Fallacy 1: These forums are always full of complaints after every upgrade.

This has the form: Something has been complained about in the past; therefore, complaint's about it in the present are not justified.

No it doesn't. One is simply a statement of fact. It makes no assertion at all about the validity of anything. It's either true - the are always complaints after an upgrade - or it's not - there was an upgrade and the forum was not full of complaints.

You obviously haven't been keeping up. The argument has been used to that affect countless times on this and other threads, and the reason why its a fallacy is precisely because its a statement with no inferential properties. You can see this clearly because I revealed the form of it in order to show just that.

Terence Devlin wrote:

Fallacy 2: This is a tech forum where people come with problems, so the fact that people are complaining here doesn't mean there are any serious problems, it's like going to a hospital and being surprised to find sick people etc etc.

This has the form: This is the place for such problems; therefore, there is no problem outside of here.

Again, uttelrly incorrect. Quite apart from the fact that you amusingly mischaracterise the hosptial analogy (do you really not understand it? Or just being dishonest?) your description of the form is nowhere near a summery of the statement.

Really. Logic?

Oh do correct me, please. I'm more than happy for you to cast the argument in any terms you wish, and I'll equally show you why its false.

Jan 17, 2012 2:26 AM in response to softwater

softwater wrote:

I'm afraid you've caught me out with my 10-year old logic.

Yes. I believe only Logic 9 works with Lion.

Cheers

softwater

Level 5

5,556 points

Jan 17, 2012 2:27 AM in response to mulligans missus

Don't start going soft mulligans; I even 'liked' that post. 😮

Timbev

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Jan 17, 2012 2:53 AM in response to Peter Coleman

Geez this is getting boring.

I had a nightmare with Lion, so reverted to SL. If you want others to be the guinea pigs, then do not update. If you are happy to be a guinea pig, then go ahead and update, and stop the unending complaining.

Lion is flakey, we all understand that. If you want the wonderful stability that SL offers, then stay with SL. Yes, I do know of people that have Lion installed, and are very happy. That is terrific, and I sincerely hope that the stability continues. In the meantime, I am staying with SL as it simply just works - the end.......

I bailed on Lion