No Lion Operating System Disk(s) with my new MacBook Pro?

The Lion USB Thumb Drive available from Apple does not work with a Mac that comes with Lion pre-installed. One of the requirements listed on the product page is to have 10.6.6 installed.

If we buy a mac computer, we should have the optino to download lion for FREE! Why should we have to pay to download something we already paid for? this is bs.

Because that is not what Apple says.

Guess who carries more weight on this one?

Cartainly not you!

Allan

There are a couple of articles using different approaches for capturing the elusive Install.ESD.dmg file for Macs that have come with Lion preinstalled.

10.7: How to get a full Lion install disc for a new MacBook Air or Pro - Mac OS X Hints

Downloading Hardware Specific Lion Installers

Not only are there people on dialup but therre are also those who have capped bandwidth as well as those who use their Macs for work in places that have no internet or mobile connections.

You can send feedback to Apple.

If Lion is preinstalled on your Mac the licensing does not permit it to be installed on any other Mac. You can use your recovery partition to reinstall Lion for free as many times as you like. I posted links to directions upthread if you want to use the InstallESD.dmg file to make a Lion installer for your Mac and burn it to DVD or install it on a USB thumbdrive or external partition.

If you purchase Lion through the Mac App Store the license allows you to install it for free on all your personal Macs that you control.

Thanks for the links. Turns out my recovery partition is corrupted!!

I'm working on the second link you posted. Must be busy because it states 12 hours to go to finish download. I'm on a company lan. Might be my line I'm not sure.

Hi Allan,

Im new to Mac, I bought a new MBP 15 with SSD a month ago, i want to install windows 7 ultimate, i just realized recovery disk wasn't shipped with my mbp, reading boot camp instructions in order for me to install windows 7 i have to have the Mac install Disk, for this purpose should i create a bootable cd from InstallESD.dmg ?

should this image of my mac would be enough to do the windows install?

Thanks,

A

Everyone has their opinions, and whether a person chooses to agree with them is their own choice.

But like so many others on this topic (both here and across the web) I believe you are missing, and the questioners have failed to mention, that the Apple Software License we agree to when we purchase a New MBP with Lion installed allows us to create a single copy of the software on hard media (i.e. DVD). This is a right granted to people in the US by Federal Law and explicitly spelled out in the agreement.

This isn't specifically an Apple issue. Many vendors who have stopped shipping media with their computers have done the same thing and made it very difficult to create a hard copy of the installed software, while making it seem like the purchaser does not have the right or authority to create the indicated copy.

For many of us, it is our belief that when we have this right granted to us by law, we should't have to jump through hoops or pull teeth to find instructions for creating our hard media copy.

lionrunner wrote:

"The Lion Recovery Assistant needs a good internet connection when recovering because it downloads GB of data from Apple servers. What about people like my aunt that are still on dialup? These people need a local media recovery solution as an option. Cloud computing is wonderful, but not giving users an option to create local recovery media is short sighted and causes a great deal of frustration for those of us that must work around these limitations."

Comment:

No, "cloud computing" is definitely not wonderful. It sacrifizes user control for a dubious "ease."

- Cloud computing means dependence on a software service in order to use your computer.

- Cloud computing means total dependence on that software service's existence, availability and accessibility any time you need to use your computer and get access to your data.

- Cloud computing and absence of copyable and full versions of the operating system and the applications means that you are prevented from having your own computer independent from the software service. Without the software service, you cannot even write a small letter to grandma.

- Cloud computing means total removal of user control and choice. In other words, greatly increased vulnerability. When the software service is down, discontinued, inaccessible or you have not paid your rent you sit there with a useless shell.

- With operating systems and applications that are full, can be backed up and installed without any need for the Net and connections to a software service, we can enjoy a much greater robustness - because we can always get our computer up and running even after a full reformat or hard disk change. Then we are not dependent on the Net in order to use our computers. And that is the way it should be.

In my opinion, we need to make it absolutely clear to Apple that we need and want full program versions that can be backed up and re-installed on compatible hardware without any dependence on App Store or any software service in order to re-establish our system or use it.

I concur, Apple you suck right now! I am spending my valuable time playing I.T., I.T. ! for goodness sake. It was a sad day when Apple got sold down the pc river, what happened to plug and play! 😢

New Mac Pro setting up in an office that has proxy security (can't just plug in an get on the internet).

I replaced the one internal drive with 4 larger drives, installed AppleRaid card.

Now... someone here explain to me how I am supposed to get an OS on this without the disks?

If the answer is: "This, but it will take x amount of steps and x amount of time", I'm going to stop reading.

Disks, and I would be done here.

This is absolutely horrible. Sorry, but Apple, my bread and butter, utterly fails when considering these things.

UTTERLY

Am am now sitting in this office just staring blanking at my "no disk" containing keyboard box... incredulously. I simply cannot believe Apple did this.