BlairWare
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Q: Upgraded to Lion and now Mail does not show attachments in the Send Box (for new messages only).

After upgrading to Lion and switching Mail to the classic mode, I can no longer see if messages have attachment in my Send Box. However, I can go into the message and see the attachment.

 

Strangely, all my messages prior to the upgrade show their attachments.

 

I've looked through the preferences and don't see a swith for this.

 

Any suggestions. Thanks.

 

Blair

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.1)

Posted on Sep 5, 2011 8:58 AM

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Q: Upgraded to Lion and now Mail does not show attachments in the Send Box (for new messages only).

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  • by WALTER-MILANO-ITALY,

    WALTER-MILANO-ITALY WALTER-MILANO-ITALY Sep 6, 2011 2:40 AM in response to BlairWare
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    Sep 6, 2011 2:40 AM in response to BlairWare

    I see the attachments.

    Classic mode.

    You cann see the Headers of the message in 2 ways. The standard way shows the "clip-Mark" after the name of the sender. If you switch to "Details" the Header expands, the "Clipmark" remains and in addition you have over the line dividing Header from Message text the Kb Dimensions of the attachment

  • by BlairWare,

    BlairWare BlairWare Sep 6, 2011 6:16 AM in response to WALTER-MILANO-ITALY
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    Sep 6, 2011 6:16 AM in response to WALTER-MILANO-ITALY

    Walter, thank you for the suggestion.

     

    Perhaps I am not explainging myself very well.

     

    In the Send Box new messages do not show the clip in the Attachments column. The image below is of two messaegs, both of which have an attachment, yet no clip is shown (this is also true of the Draft Box).

     

    Image of clipless sent messages.jpg

     

    In all other boxes, an attachment is shown with a clip (see below).

    image of attached message.jpg

    I need the clips to be shown in all mail boxes.

     

    Thanks.

     

    Cheers, Blair

  • by Jürgen from OHZ,Helpful

    Jürgen from OHZ Jürgen from OHZ Oct 21, 2011 11:44 PM in response to BlairWare
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    Oct 21, 2011 11:44 PM in response to BlairWare

    Hi Blair,

     

    I'm convinced that this behaviour is a bug. Mail.app 5.0 handles attachments slightly different and a lot more of win/outlook users cannot open mail.app-attachements since the lion-upgrade, because they are simply not "flagged" as attachements. Funny enough, this is only true for some mail-servers, whereas others (like googlemail) seem to "re-flag" the mail as "with attachement". So I have the following situation: in my send-box, ALL mails are unflagged for attachements. When I send them cc: to myself, they are flagged "with attachment" when sent via googlemail and "without attachment" when sent via any other server I use. I hope for a bug-fix soon!

     

    Cheers, Jürgen

  • by BlairWare,

    BlairWare BlairWare Oct 23, 2011 8:25 AM in response to Jürgen from OHZ
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    Oct 23, 2011 8:25 AM in response to Jürgen from OHZ

    Hi Jürgen,

     

    Thanks for responding; I thought I was the only only one with this problem. It sounds like you have an additional problem when sending messages with attachments. I posted my problem to my local Mac User Group, and even though there is an Apple rep on the MUG, I have had no response.

     

    I will start Cc'ing myself, although this seems like a very crude workaround. Thanks for the suggestion.

     

    Is anyone at Apple viewing these posts? Hello...

     

    Cheers, Blair

  • by Tony T1,

    Tony T1 Tony T1 Oct 23, 2011 8:32 AM in response to BlairWare
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    Oct 23, 2011 8:32 AM in response to BlairWare

    Bug.  You can report it at: http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

  • by Ernie Stamper,

    Ernie Stamper Ernie Stamper Oct 23, 2011 9:19 AM in response to BlairWare
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    Oct 23, 2011 9:19 AM in response to BlairWare

    The issue is a bit more complex.  The Sent message looks quite normal if the Sent mailbox is accessed, say, in Mail 4.5, and has its paper clip, and all.  Likewise, a message Sent from Mail 4.5, when seen in the Sent mailbox in Mail 5.x will look normal.  It is very odd thing, and I have yet been able to get deep enough to know why.

     

    The other issue mentioned about some Windows users not seeing the attachments is related to Mail 5.x not actually sending in Plain Text, even if you request it.  I have been informed that has been done on purpose by Apple engineering, but I am of the opinion that change is a grave mistake, and will continue to be problematic.  I continue to collect reports about that in the hopes I can ulitimately convince someone it is a bad change.

     

    Ernie

  • by BlairWare,

    BlairWare BlairWare Oct 23, 2011 9:50 AM in response to Tony T1
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    Oct 23, 2011 9:50 AM in response to Tony T1

    Sending something to http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html where there is no feedback feels somewhat useless. None the less, I did that.

     

    Cheers, Blair

  • by oakmontoz,

    oakmontoz oakmontoz Jan 5, 2012 4:50 PM in response to BlairWare
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    Jan 5, 2012 4:50 PM in response to BlairWare

    OK, I have no idea why, but the following worked.

     

    I created a rule in the Preferences pane:

    CONDITIONS

         sender is me

         attachment contains "." (every file does)

    RULE

         set color to (anything)

     

    The rule worked.

    Furthermore, the paperclips appeared!!!

  • by Jürgen from OHZ,

    Jürgen from OHZ Jürgen from OHZ Jan 5, 2012 10:22 PM in response to oakmontoz
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    Jan 5, 2012 10:22 PM in response to oakmontoz

    Great!

    Worked for me too, even with the first condition abandoned (all mails are from me).

    Careful: you have to enter "." in the attachment-field, not just .

    Very curious behaviour of apple-mail here, isn't it?!

     

    Thanks for that hint!

  • by BlairWare,

    BlairWare BlairWare Jan 6, 2012 8:57 AM in response to oakmontoz
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    Jan 6, 2012 8:57 AM in response to oakmontoz

    Amazing... why in the world would you have tried this? It's like an artificial refresh, but makes little sense from a user's perspective.

     

    I was just about to go back to 10.6.

     

    Thanks so much.

  • by Rustydude42,

    Rustydude42 Rustydude42 Mar 20, 2012 12:57 PM in response to BlairWare
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    Mar 20, 2012 12:57 PM in response to BlairWare

    Weird...That workawound worked for me.  Very odd.

    Thanks again!

  • by Jonathan Nolan,

    Jonathan Nolan Jonathan Nolan Apr 3, 2012 9:03 PM in response to oakmontoz
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    Apr 3, 2012 9:03 PM in response to oakmontoz

    Love you guys for this - brilliant. Was really bugging me and this worked. Thanks!!!!!!

  • by Vidya Iyengar,

    Vidya Iyengar Vidya Iyengar Apr 12, 2012 1:10 AM in response to oakmontoz
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    Apr 12, 2012 1:10 AM in response to oakmontoz

    This is incredible. Thank you. After switching to Lion and living through it's glitches, I'm conviced that it's folks like you who are redeeming it

  • by Obasan,

    Obasan Obasan Apr 13, 2012 10:28 PM in response to oakmontoz
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    Apr 13, 2012 10:28 PM in response to oakmontoz

    Just wanted to stop by to thank you for this workaround. This has been driving me crazy all year! The workaround works more or less. What I find strange, and rather disappointing, is that mail has colored many messages that do not have attachements and has failed to color some messages that do have attachments. This points to the fact that Mail in Lion is horribly inconsistent in applying rules. Mail used to be such a great application...

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