Motion 5 ProRes4444 export shows gradient banding (Pics)

In my case the culprit was as described below:

"The gradient with the subtle tonality is actualy a 1920x1080 image that comes with an FCPX template. It also happens to be a PNG file."

What is creating the gradient in your case? Also something from the content library?

Once this was removed from my project all was well.

OK I'd like to give an update on this with more pics. This is a vector (PDF). There is a light in the project resulting in a gradient. There is still the banding issue regaurdless of what format i output to.

*This eliminates the previously suspected PSD file being the issue*

Here it is at 100% in the canvass as a screengrab with no banding whatsoever:

www.givethatmanajob.com/Public/share/grab.png

And here is what I get when I export it in *any format* including ProRes4444 with all setting at highest - as you can see there is banding in the gradient:

www.givethatmanajob.com/Public/share/LM_Promo2.jpg

Now the second picture is a Jpeg to be sure but that's because the TIFF version is 16MB - but I assure you the banding is there is either version as well as any video i export right up to ProRes4444 which is 10 Bit and therefore ought to be banding free.

The question remains: Why can I not succesfully export a version as good as the canvas?

OK I've got it. The animation Codec (via compressor) gets the job done. Interestingly Uncompressed 10 Bit doesn't.

I'd love to get thoughts on why that might be, but I'm also happy to have found a way to get the high quality grandient out of compressor.

Just happened by with the same problem. One thing I noticed in Motion 5 is that the add noise filter in M5 has a type setting, and one of those types is labeled "Blue Noise (reduces banding)." I'm inclined to agree that it shouldn't be so difficult to export without banding but anyone needing a current permutation of the "banding" filter can find it here.

I found a solution, or at least It works for me.

If you have compressor installed...

-Go to the Motion graphics folder and duplicate the quicktime animation preset.

-Now go to the custom presets and select it.

-Under the encoder Tab go to video settings

-Change the quality from medium to best

-Save the new changes.

Now

From Motion 5 go to export with compressor settings

Choose your preset and export.

It really took care of the banding problem for me.

I hope it works for you, this solution should take about 2 minutes.

Sincerely

William Rivera

When i tried this, the animation compressor setting were already at Best.

WOW .

OK I year has passed and I'm experiencing this again. But a new clue...

When I export out of Motion at ProRes (Best Settings) I get gradient banding. I have conducted a test to demonstrate that ProRes is entirely capable of rendering gradients without banding but Motion5 (and FCPX) seem unable to.

At the end of the tests - a twist! *The banding only shows up when viewed in Quicktime*

If you bring the clip back in to FCPX or Motion, no banding.

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The banding also shows up in QT7

This is a mystery to me - does anyone have any idea what it could all mean?

At the last upgrade for Motion and FCPX, Apple released updates to the ProRes Quicktime codecs. Apple was very low-key about it... didn't even mention it in the update info [the big deal push was adding XAVC support], but I believe they have fixed the banding issue that had been occuring.

If the update is not available to you under Software Updates, you can download it from here:

http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1396

I have had this problem, and just solved it- Perfect playback inside of FCPX, banding in the QT exports. However, if I open the export in VLC instead of QT player, the banding was GONE. The Quicktime Player was introducing banding somehow..... I would reccomend giving the export a shot in another player