Can I move Mail (Lion) files back to Mail (Snow Leopard)?

Hi,


I've encountered a screwy problem and am wondering if there is an easy fix. I have an iMac at the office that is now running Lion, and a MacBook Pro at home running Snow Leopard (which I am keeping there for now because of the Quicken issue with Lion). Anyway, my laptop hard drive totally failed (still trying to recover the data but have been unsuccessful so far...worst drive failure I've ever encountered...even TechTool Pro tech support couldn't help) and I lost literally 10s of thousands of emails over the last many years. I have the vast majority of those emails on my iMac, but the file structure is all changed now so it is not straightforward to just copy-paste folders from the iMac (Lion) to the MacBook (Snow Leopard).


I can think of two tedious ways to move the files:

1) Actually burrow into the ridiculous level of folders in the Lion Mail structure and copy directly...but I'm not willing to spend that time for 10s of thousands of emails.

2) All prior years emails are in folders "On My Mac" on the iMac, so I can re-upload the emails via IMAP and then download them to MacBook...but this is tiresome.


That said, is there a way to easily backward import the Lion Mail files to Snow Leopard Mail?


Thanks,

- DC

MacBook Pro 15, Mac OS X (10.6.8), Office computer: iMac OS 10.7.1

Posted on Sep 16, 2011 2:54 AM

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Sep 25, 2011 6:47 AM in response to baltwo

I have a similar problem: 2 MacBook Pros, one with Snow Leopard and one with Lion. The logic board on the Lion laptop died the day after I installed Lion, but I was able to pull the hard drive and put it in an enclosure so I can access the files. Since I didn't even have 24 hours to experience Lion, I am just now learning that I have no idea where the mail is stored on the hard drive since it's not the same as previous versions.


Can you be more specific about how to export mail from Lion to SL? Would I have to connect the hard drive to a machine running Lion for that to work? Thanks a million!

Sep 25, 2011 7:33 AM in response to David Carroll2

Are you sure this import worked? I converted to Lion and did a save, which made my bootable backup disk also 100% Lionized. When I tried to go back to Snow leopard, it APPEARED the export from Lion to SL Mail worked, but in fact it did not. I tried multiple times, before giving up and going back to Lion.


I called a senior tech support friend and he said Lion modifies the Mail files so that you cannot go back to SL. He said his experience was exactly like mine.


If you exported Mail files that had been active inside a Lion version of Mail, please state that. I do not want to spend another 5 or 6 hours trying to go backwards and end up in the same place.


Thanks...

Sep 25, 2011 8:24 AM in response to DTDunn

A timely question DTDunn,


When I made my initial successful check it was for a single mailbox. I got to my other 15 mailboxes "On My Mac" yesterday and many failed. The process I took was:


1) Export from Lion Mail

2) Transfer to memory stick and then onto laptop with SL

3) Import into SL from Apple Mail (I tried from the last "mbox" option but that only partly worked)


My success rate with this seems to have been about 30% in terms of importing all mailboxes correctly, but it actually imported something like 75% of the actual mail messages. It almost seemed like there was a limit on the number of email messages in any particular mailbox that would go correctly...I need to examine that closer...in other words, small mailboxes seemed to transfer just fine, but the larger ones with say 6000 emails were only partially imported.


The suggestion by BrianMBM of uploading to IMAP account from Lion, and then syncing (downloading) into the SL computer I know works correctly (I have done this with 100% success). The problem is that when you literally have about 20GB of email (including attachments), this is "tedious" at best...but it will work.


- DC

Sep 25, 2011 8:30 AM in response to Clatter Amy

Clatter Amy,


Your Mail folder in Lion is now in the hidden Library file in your user folder. To see it, or unhide take a look at this link:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3194055?answerId=15855954022#15855954022


Basically open a Terminal window and type:

chflags nohidden ~/Library


Regardless, the new Lion Mail structure is painful...I'm not sure why they made the switch, but I am unwilling to go through the many layers of folders to find each email to copy paste back to SL.


- DC

Sep 25, 2011 10:05 AM in response to David Carroll2

I've always thought it's a bad idea to just leave all my mail online or in the mail application. Instead, I regularly save all my important messages as text files, into folders I create for each project to which the mails relate, or other folders called "Friends" etc.


That way, if anything bad happens in whatever email application I'm using or at the server end with my ISP, there's no chance of losing old messages.


Another advantage of saving messages in folders is that you can put everythng else in those folders too, such as images, WP files, PDFs etc - everything that has to do with that particular project or person.


Just a suggestion.

Sep 25, 2011 2:56 PM in response to David Carroll2

Oh, my…I'm not sure whether to thank you for showing me where the mail is in Lion or not…in some ways I think I might have been better off thinking everything was lost to the ages rather than seeing the way it's "organized" in the Lion Hidden Library. I'm pretty close to abandoning hope. But thank you for helping me out with that!!


And Tom in London, that's a brilliant suggestion. I'm going to get right on that! I really like the idea of having email in a text file so that it's universal. I have so much email from eons past that I will never be able to convert into something readable again.


Thanks for your help, guys!

Nov 23, 2011 6:40 PM in response to David Carroll2

Hi everyone,


I was able to import my Apple Mail after downgrading from Lion to Snow Leopard.


Here is what I did:

- In Mail, click Mailbox > New Mailbox.

- in the New Mailbox dialog box, select "On My Mac" as the location and give it any "MailboxName" you want. Click OK.

- Now in Finder, open Library > Mail > Mailboxes > MailboxName.mbox. In the MailboxName.mbox folder (where MailboxName is whatever name you gave the mailbox), all you'll see is an info.plist file. Add a folder called "Messages".

- Go to the location where you've backed up all of your email from Lion and drill down to the Messages folder where you have all your .emlx files. Copy all of these .emlx files and paste them into the new Messages folder you've created (i.e., at the Library > Mail > Mailboxes > MailboxName.mbox > Messages location).

- Go back to Mail. If you open the new "MailboxName" folder under "ON MY MAC", you'll see that it is still empty. Snow Leopard Mail can't read the .emlx files from Lion Mail. But we're not done yet. There are some more steps.

- On the Mail File menu, click Import Mailboxes.

- Select Apple Mail and click Continue.

- Browse to Library > Mail > Mailboxes, select "MailboxName.mbox", click Choose, and then click Done.

- Snow Leopard Mail will now import Lion Mail. It creates an "Import" folder in Mail under "ON MY MAC". Expand the Import folder and you'll see a a folder with the "MailboxName" you selected. When you open this you'll see all of your mail items that came from Lion Mail.

- You can repeat the above for each mailbox you want to import.

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