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Thunderbolt Display turns off randomly

I have a new Mac Mini 2011 i7 Quad CPU version. I have a Thunderbolt 27 inch display. I have found that the display randomly turns off and won't turn on when I use the keyboard or mouse. This occurs when I am doing stuff on the machine, it is not a display sleep issue. The first couple of times I had to use Remote Desktop to reboot the Mac Mini to fix the issue. The last time it happened I removed the Thunderbolt plug from the Mac Mini and reinstalled it and this fixed the issue. I have the latest software updates on the Mac Mini and the Thunderbolt Firmware update on the Display.


I am running Lion 10.7.1

Posted on Sep 21, 2011 9:35 PM

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Posted on Feb 20, 2017 6:19 PM

No news here, just another data point for anyone who still cares. 😁


tl;dr: another instance of this issue improving with an external Thunderbolt cable.


2011 Mac Mini Server with Thunderbolt Display that started blacking out after 5+ years of being awesome. The blackouts increased in duration from 1-2 second flashes that recovered autonomously to apparently indefinite darkness that required a monitor power cycle or signal cable unplug/replug to recover.


I tried:

  • PRAM/SMC reset, multiple times.
  • Display settings hoakus poakus:
    • reduce brightness
    • disable automatic brightness adjustment
    • disable power save
  • Software updates

    All updates to TBD and Mac mini had been applied already. Even so, I downloaded and launched the standalone update installers from support.apple.com. Each installer indicated that the update was already installed.


The frequency of the blackouts had been increasing over the course of the last few weeks, until reaching a crescendo over the weekend where the display would remain illuminated for only a few seconds before needing another power cycle or signal cable dis/re-connect.


The number of posters to this thread who found relief from this issue by using an external Thunderbolt cable gave me hope. I picked up a new Thunderbolt cable from my local Apple Store today, and for the first time in a few weeks my TBD has been solid for more than a couple of hours.


I've seen enough posts in this thread to know that victory can never be declared on this issue, but I'll post updates over the next few weeks as I suspect at least a few folks are in my situation and ready to buy new hardware when Apple freshens up the desktop offerings. Until then a working TBD is the best possible setup for me.

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Nov 1, 2013 11:26 AM in response to Pappa3x11!!

I had this happen with my flickering TBD and MBA. I had audio but no video for a while but by messing about with it I eventually got the video back. The flickering problem remained though. I basically did things like open the display on the MBA, take out the TB connector, clode the lid, put the connector back in, reboot, change the order of connecting it all together etc etc and it eventually came back.

Unfortunately I have no idea what I did that brought it back.

Nov 8, 2013 11:39 AM in response to gadget_aussie_man

I had the same problem, it only seemed to start happening in the last couple weeks for some reason. The display would blank after a period when connected to my relatively new MacBook Pro, and also on my week old Mac Mini. I borrowed a thunderbolt cable from work, and connected through that instead, and the display has been working flawlessly since (except that it doesn't wake from sleep on the Mac Mini)...


My theory is that the electronics in the cable didn't like getting plugged and unplugged all the time or something! My 2nd thunderbolt display seems to be starting to display the same behavior as well unfortunately, when I touch the cable connector the display goes dark 😟...

Nov 21, 2013 2:35 AM in response to bond604

my TBD is still working after a couple of weeks so the replacement combi-cable for the display seems to have done thee trick. It even wakes from sleep with my MBA when I click the mouse (which is connected to an ancient Apple keyboard from my old PPC MDD machine, the keyboard being plugged into the TBD as well). So everything is working, attached Firewire disk, Ethernet, USB, the whole thing.


🙂

Nov 21, 2013 7:16 AM in response to stevenfrombrüggen

That doesn't surprise and surprises me even less with our latest findings at OWC.


We acquired a Mac mini from a customer that was demonstrating the issue a couple weeks ago. Been trying to get our hands on one we could repeat with for a while.


This particular Mac mini which was shown to be exhibiting the Thunderbolt flicker issue at the customer's site - has ZERO issues with our Thunderbolt display and other displays at our site. Same OS, same everything - only difference is we don't have the Thunderbolt display that was in question. To be clear - we could not cause any issue to occur with this 'confirmed issue' Mac mini and our Thunderbolt display and other displays used in replication testing. ZERO issues.


This issue, we strongly believe, is one related to line noise and/or interference on the connecting cables used with external displays connected via Thunderbolt/Displayport.


The Mac mini we swapped the customer to also has no issues now for the customer.


This leads to reasonable conclusions:

Different Mac minis are more or less susceptible to interference/noise on this video line and/or have more or less inherent of a video chipset related issue.


Different Thunderbolt displays have better or worse cable assemblies with respect to noise they will or won't add.


And - we already knew this and goes right in line with the above - different mini-Display Adapters and display cables are of better or worse quality - (here's an example: http://www.newertech.com/video/ ) and have already seen new cables be the solution for some customers.


This is also reinforced by plenty of examples of completely stock MacBook Air and Retina models (which use mobile chipsets like or similar to the mini in tight quarters) also having varying degrees of issue.


Without a doubt, Apple has done a lot to improve this via EFI/Firmware updates over the past year - with the largest improvement probably in February of this year.


If you have a Thunderbolt display with the issue - might be worthwhile trying a different Thunderbolt cable from the display to the system vs. the built in to see if that helps at all too. Either way - this is an issue inherent to these systems.


Hope this helps.

Nov 22, 2013 5:49 AM in response to gadget_aussie_man

I have a mid 2011 Mini and the Thunderbolt display.

I have used this combination for several years with no problems whatsoever.


Then a few months ago the problems started. Blinking and then blank display.

It got worse, and it is now super bad. I have the TB display stored away in my closet.

I now use two other HD monitors, working great..


Summary:


- no problem, wonderful experience for more than a year

- no changes to the hardware, just OS upgrade, etc.., then the problems started to appear


3 guesses:

- some hardware went bad, or some hardware parameters got worse

- OS upgrade or other upgrade causes the problem, as I remember after the Mountain Lion upgrade I started to have problems with the power saving functionality

- hardware got dirty, and the TD or the Mac display hardware or the Cable gets too hot


- Mavericks did not resolve this

- new cable did not help

- changing memory to the original set (from 8GB to 4GB) - did not help

- all the tricks explained here - did hot help

- the inside copper (or whatever) of the TD cable gets hot

- when it started, switching off the display, turning it on (hardware power off-on), helped for some time, sometimes it worked ok for hours, days

- now, when I freshly switch on the system (all power off-on) it works for a few minutes, sometimes not at all


Does anyone experience this with pre Mountain Lion releases?

Still do not know which part is the culprit, the display, the cable, the machine, or the software.


The TB is now waiting for better times...

Nov 22, 2013 5:56 AM in response to hugo8

I would be concerned about the cable getting hot - is this the combination cable that comes woth the TBD with the power connector and the TB connector? or do you mean the power cable for the display?

If it is the combi cable, then if you are using a mac-mini you don't need to supply power from the display to the mini, in that case I can not understand why it would get hot? If you mean the display powert cable, then I would say that that cable really shouldn't get hot either.

It certainly implies that something is drawing a lot of / too much current.

Can you test with a different computer?

Nov 25, 2013 4:11 AM in response to gadget_aussie_man

Using a factory Macbook Pro Retina 15 inch 2012 as the machine and then I connect to a (believe its 2011) 27 inch imac used as the second monitor via a thunderbolt cable. All factory. MBPR has recently had a logic board replaced, its own monitor replaced (due to many burnt out pixels), and has had the thunderbolt cable replaced. The flickering issue still persits.

Dec 18, 2013 8:39 AM in response to gadget_aussie_man

My thunderbolt display had been having problems connecting for a few months, and suddenly went dark one day. However, the power cord still worked. Techserv suggested that I try plugging in a different thunderbolt cord, and it worked! If you're having similar problems, just try a new cord. It will save you from lugging the monitor to the genius bar or Tekserv!

Dec 18, 2013 10:54 AM in response to Jill Bauerle

I have to say - it's rather concerning and disappointing that the built-in/hard wire integrated Thunderbolt cable is failing on these displays as now multiple parties have reported here. Good that a new Thunderbolt cable connected to what would otherwise be open for daisy-chain, etc prevents an expensive repair to an out of warranty display.... but none the less. If within warranty, I'd lug it in to get fixed/replaced right.


The new Mac Pro is announced to go tomorrow, wonder when will see new Thunderbolt displays. I can not believe it's going on almost 3 years now since the current and only Thunderbolt display was made available... and not even an update to USB 3.0 hub ports made to it... and these kinds of issues persisting. hmmmmm

Dec 24, 2013 9:08 AM in response to gadget_aussie_man

My TBD started doing this like exactly 1 year after i bought it.


I told them at the genious bar that this was cleary som kind of manufacturing problem but they said they have never heard about this problem before... They wanted 600€ to fix it, i think they said that that the motherboard was somehow broken.


In Sweden you have 3 years of warranty, unfortunatly i bought my TBD through a company which apparently only gives me 1 year of waranty...


I think everyone should try to return their displays as soon as this appears to avoid having to pay for this.

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