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Thunderbolt Display turns off randomly

I have a new Mac Mini 2011 i7 Quad CPU version. I have a Thunderbolt 27 inch display. I have found that the display randomly turns off and won't turn on when I use the keyboard or mouse. This occurs when I am doing stuff on the machine, it is not a display sleep issue. The first couple of times I had to use Remote Desktop to reboot the Mac Mini to fix the issue. The last time it happened I removed the Thunderbolt plug from the Mac Mini and reinstalled it and this fixed the issue. I have the latest software updates on the Mac Mini and the Thunderbolt Firmware update on the Display.


I am running Lion 10.7.1

Posted on Sep 21, 2011 9:35 PM

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Posted on Feb 20, 2017 6:19 PM

No news here, just another data point for anyone who still cares. 😁


tl;dr: another instance of this issue improving with an external Thunderbolt cable.


2011 Mac Mini Server with Thunderbolt Display that started blacking out after 5+ years of being awesome. The blackouts increased in duration from 1-2 second flashes that recovered autonomously to apparently indefinite darkness that required a monitor power cycle or signal cable unplug/replug to recover.


I tried:

  • PRAM/SMC reset, multiple times.
  • Display settings hoakus poakus:
    • reduce brightness
    • disable automatic brightness adjustment
    • disable power save
  • Software updates

    All updates to TBD and Mac mini had been applied already. Even so, I downloaded and launched the standalone update installers from support.apple.com. Each installer indicated that the update was already installed.


The frequency of the blackouts had been increasing over the course of the last few weeks, until reaching a crescendo over the weekend where the display would remain illuminated for only a few seconds before needing another power cycle or signal cable dis/re-connect.


The number of posters to this thread who found relief from this issue by using an external Thunderbolt cable gave me hope. I picked up a new Thunderbolt cable from my local Apple Store today, and for the first time in a few weeks my TBD has been solid for more than a couple of hours.


I've seen enough posts in this thread to know that victory can never be declared on this issue, but I'll post updates over the next few weeks as I suspect at least a few folks are in my situation and ready to buy new hardware when Apple freshens up the desktop offerings. Until then a working TBD is the best possible setup for me.

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Dec 6, 2015 7:59 AM in response to immm

immm, I feel your pain as do others here in this thread..I can tell you that since i started using a separate TB to TB

cable my problems have been eliminated (per Steve G and others above); I've also turned my brightness level

down a couple of notches per some posters as a help..maybe I've just been lucky but for 4 years this TB monitor

of mine has been a real champ (until recently)

Dec 9, 2015 9:17 AM in response to scubajwd

Same problem here. Mid 2012 MB Pro Retina 15" attached to TBD with the all in one cable causes the monitor to go black. To fix it, instead of using a separate TB cable, I'm using the TB portion of the all in one cable to drive the monitor and ports and am charging my MB Pro with it's travel charger. So far, so good 🙂

Apr 13, 2016 4:58 AM in response to gadget_aussie_man

I am just now experiencing this issue. Mac mini 2011 quad core 2.0Ghz i7, which I have a custom version of OSX 10.6.8 running stably for the past 3-4 years with no problem. 8GB RAM (2x4GB 1333 from Crucial). No problems.


This week I installed 16GB (2x8GB) of Crucial DDR3L-1600 1.35V CL11, and while all is stable under no load (basic browser/Word use etc), as soon as I load up a multicore process and push the processor hard, the external Thunderbolt output display intermittently cuts out. This dispay is a Dell 2711 running directly off the Thunderbolt port. I also have a 24 inch display running at the same time off the HDMI port. This display runs fine and does not cut out.


I can solve the display glitch in 3 ways:

1. Unplug the HDMI display, so only the Thunderbolt is being driven.

2. Unplug the Thunderbolt display so only the HDMI is being driven.

3. Revert back to 12 GB RAM (1x4GB, and 1x8GB new RAM), no glitch on either display even though both are being driven.


Given that I am seeing this behaviour on a non-Apple Thunderbolt display, and that it is highly reproducibly caused by the addition of 16Gb RAM and high processor load, I suspect that there may be an unrelated issue afflicting some Apple Thunderbolt displays,but that the route cause is something to do with the shared VRAM on the i7 Chip when two displays are active and a potential incompatibility with either 16GB RAM, or more likely 16Gb of CL11 RAM.


I hope this information is at least useful to anyone still afflicted by the problem.

Apr 22, 2016 10:10 AM in response to ZX48

My Thunderbolt display bought at the Apple Store October 2015 goes black periodically. If I open the MacBook lid it will come back on. This has happened 4 times in the last day of usage. Oddly, when it goes black the keyboard also stops working, if I continue typing while the display is black no words are in the document starting from the time the display went black. I dont know what is ging on but its pretty aggravating behavior for a $1,000 display.


Apr 22, 2016 12:09 PM in response to Gnarlodious

I guess it was happening because the display overheated. This is the first warm day of the year, the display is against a steel wall with the morning sun hitting it. I put a thermometer back there and it read 117ºF. I set up a fan since apparently the Thunderbolt Display has no built-in cooling mechanism. Good going, Apple.


Anyway, its been running a few hours without blacking out. I read the specs and it said 90º max ambient temperature. I’ll set up a fan on a digital thermostat to keep the air moving. Maybe I’ll drill a bunch of big ventilation holes in the back case. I suppose that would void my warrantee.

Apr 22, 2016 1:03 PM in response to Gnarlodious

I HAD the same issue with my Macbook Pro and Thunderbolt Display bought together in May 2014.


The turn off randomly start 15 days after the purchase.

During summer 2014 I bring my screen to the Apple store and the found nothing.


It began with the turn off randomly, then I got problem when the machine waked up from sleep mode ( I turned sleep mode to never), then I lost my Eth connection, then one day I lost the camera and all the USB and TB connections from the integrated hub. Only the display was ok but blinking some times


Finally ,end of 2015, I opened a call but I learned the Apple Care for the screen which I got at the same time I bought the computer did not include the on site pick up (this should be clearly notified). I had to go to the store again which I refuse because I consider they are only good to sell , not to fix nor analyze any issue. I finally went to an Apple official repair shop near Paris (FR). The guy told me ... "I see, I think it is the cable"


They changed the Thunderbolt cable on the display and I have now recovered everything !!


The Machine is booting really fast , no long wait for the screen detection, everything is smooth, what a pleasure to use this hardware without problem.

I think Apple should activate a recall program for this problem which is very common.


I hope that will help.

Regards

Guy

Nov 8, 2016 4:11 PM in response to friguyb

After five years with this display, finally got bit by this issue. Late 2011 Macbook Pro running El Capitan 10.11.6, I haven't changed anything recently. Suddenly today the thunderbolt display flickered and then went black. I can bring it back by putting the mac to sleep, and flipping the display open. Doesn't last long though, within a few minutes or so the same thing happens.


Tried removing usb devices plugged into the display, resetting pram/smc, not using integrated power cable from display, but no dice, keeps happening. I guess I'll try a thunderbolt cable and bypassing the display's built-in cable, not sure what else I can do.


Anyone have any more news on this issue?

Nov 10, 2016 4:08 PM in response to manuelfrominnsbruck

I shut everything down that night and left it. Prior to that I had cleaned the cable contacts and the thunderbolt port on the mac, but it still happened after that. Altogether I'd say it happened at least 20 times that day.


So far is it hasn't happened again for the past two days, but nothing has changed other than what I had already tried, and still using the integrated cable. So really no idea what the deal is at this point.

Dec 6, 2016 10:18 AM in response to gadget_aussie_man

In my case, the problem turned out to be overheating of the graphics unit in the Mac mini. Noticed that it never happened after the computer had been sleeping, but only after a lot of use. Tried flipping the Mac over to cool it with the desk contact, and it stopped the cutting out, but eventually the desk got warm. Got a fan control program and discovered things were toasty in there and could be cooled by turning up the fan. Presto: problem gone...

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