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Thunderbolt Display turns off randomly

I have a new Mac Mini 2011 i7 Quad CPU version. I have a Thunderbolt 27 inch display. I have found that the display randomly turns off and won't turn on when I use the keyboard or mouse. This occurs when I am doing stuff on the machine, it is not a display sleep issue. The first couple of times I had to use Remote Desktop to reboot the Mac Mini to fix the issue. The last time it happened I removed the Thunderbolt plug from the Mac Mini and reinstalled it and this fixed the issue. I have the latest software updates on the Mac Mini and the Thunderbolt Firmware update on the Display.


I am running Lion 10.7.1

Posted on Sep 21, 2011 9:35 PM

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Posted on Feb 20, 2017 6:19 PM

No news here, just another data point for anyone who still cares. 😁


tl;dr: another instance of this issue improving with an external Thunderbolt cable.


2011 Mac Mini Server with Thunderbolt Display that started blacking out after 5+ years of being awesome. The blackouts increased in duration from 1-2 second flashes that recovered autonomously to apparently indefinite darkness that required a monitor power cycle or signal cable unplug/replug to recover.


I tried:

  • PRAM/SMC reset, multiple times.
  • Display settings hoakus poakus:
    • reduce brightness
    • disable automatic brightness adjustment
    • disable power save
  • Software updates

    All updates to TBD and Mac mini had been applied already. Even so, I downloaded and launched the standalone update installers from support.apple.com. Each installer indicated that the update was already installed.


The frequency of the blackouts had been increasing over the course of the last few weeks, until reaching a crescendo over the weekend where the display would remain illuminated for only a few seconds before needing another power cycle or signal cable dis/re-connect.


The number of posters to this thread who found relief from this issue by using an external Thunderbolt cable gave me hope. I picked up a new Thunderbolt cable from my local Apple Store today, and for the first time in a few weeks my TBD has been solid for more than a couple of hours.


I've seen enough posts in this thread to know that victory can never be declared on this issue, but I'll post updates over the next few weeks as I suspect at least a few folks are in my situation and ready to buy new hardware when Apple freshens up the desktop offerings. Until then a working TBD is the best possible setup for me.

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Oct 23, 2014 3:08 PM in response to djgray

I'm having this same issue on a brand new TBD and rMBP 15" (like bought within the last week).


Randomly I will see the TBD go black, then it will come back and I'll have the display, but my USB ports will stop working. I originally thought it was an issue caused with an Aune T1 USB DAC/Amp I was using, so I disconnected it. Then I thought it might be Steermouse for my G400s, so I uninstalled it and rebooted. Unfortunately that doesn't appear to have resolved the issue. It's very intermittent, but nonetheless is happening.


My hardware details are below:

Hardware Overview:


Model Name: MacBook Pro

Model Identifier: MacBookPro11,2

Processor Name: Intel Core i7

Processor Speed: 2.2 GHz

Number of Processors: 1

Total Number of Cores: 4

L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB

L3 Cache: 6 MB

Memory: 16 GB

Boot ROM Version: MBP112.0138.B07

SMC Version (system): 2.18f10


System Version: OS X 10.9.5 (13F34)

Kernel Version: Darwin 13.4.0

Boot Volume: Macintosh HD

Boot Mode: Normal


Thunderbolt Display:


Vendor Name: Apple Inc.

Device Name: Thunderbolt Display

Vendor ID: 0x1

Device ID: 0x8002

Device Revision: 0x1

UID: 0x0001000000000000

Route String: 1

Firmware Version: 26.2

Port (Upstream):

Status: Device connected

Link Status: 0x2

Port Micro Firmware Version: 2.0.7

Cable Firmware Version: 0.1.18

Cable Serial Number: C4M431400MFDNWFAZ

Port:

Status: No device connected

Link Status: 0x7

Port Micro Firmware Version: 2.0.7



From what I've seen in this ~30 page thread is that it appears most people have attributed the issue to a faulty All-in-One TB cable off the TBD and that replacing this with an external 3rd-party (OWC or other) TB cable fixes the issue. I'm going to try that to see if it resolves the problem, but as an interesting point on this almost every one of my coworkers with a similar configuration has the same exact issue, except for those using older (non-Retina) MBPs which seem to have no problem with their TBDs.


I'm pretty surprised that this issue has persisted more than 3 years considering the cost of a MBP + TBD is >$3000. It's beyond ridiculous this has not been resolved at this point.

Nov 14, 2014 3:52 AM in response to gadget_aussie_man

http://www.macrumors.com/2014/11/13/thunderbolt-display-firmware-update/


Has this update helped anyone? My TBD is black for 3 weeks now. Cant work anymore, and I already said my goodbyes. Tried it out with this firmware update, but of course, it is still plain black. Even with 3rd party tb connector.


So I'm finally giving up. Already bought a Dell monitor, and not even considering buying another monitor from apple.

Nov 18, 2014 9:25 AM in response to hColl

I also installed the new Thunderbolt Display firmware update 1.2, and it has had no effect, screens (I have two TBD's connected) still flicker and occasionally shut off requiring a disconnect/reconnect. I also tried a 2m Thunderbolt cable from Apple, also with no effect.


Interestingly, the system profiler showed the Firmware version of my displays 26.2 before and after the update. So it's possible the update didn't even do anything, although, trying to run it again says all displays are already up to date. I didn't notice what the port or cable firmware versions were before the update, so it's possible they've changed...

Dec 13, 2014 2:27 AM in response to gadget_aussie_man

I used my Thunderbolt Display from day one with the external 2 meter cable, connected to a Mac Mini. Some weeks ago, my display began suffering from the exact same problems described in this thread. These problems (blinking and black screen) disappeared by connecting with the built-in cable. Two weeks ago, I bought a new 2 meter Thunderbolt cable from Apple, this time a black one, to make sure it contains the newest firmware. Since then all problems I had with my Thunderbolt Display disappeared, including other ones like awaking from sleep modus.


Long story short: always try a new Thunderbolt cable before taking the conclusion that your display needs to be repaired!

Dec 13, 2014 12:43 PM in response to elemans

My two TBDisplays are still doing the non wakeeee.........wakeee routine. I've spent hours on the phone or online doing tweaks and reboots of software, hardware, settings, re-installation of Mavericks to no avail. The last correspondence I had with my senior tech was to return both of my TBDs for a full refund. I haven't heard from him since and he doesn't respond to my emails anymore. This is really starting to **** me off. I spent two grand on these displays and they won't do what they were supposed to do. That includes being a thunderbolt hub and usb port hub. Whenever the particular TBD decides to not work, it ejects whatever I have connected to the usb hub and the Thunderbolt port. Why do I have to live with this? Apple tell me why please!

Dec 13, 2014 1:23 PM in response to Community User

Here's a screen shot of my thunderbolt port info with display info. Does anyone who has done the firmware update have different version numbers than mine?



Thunderbolt Display:



Vendor Name: Apple Inc.

Device Name: Thunderbolt Display

Vendor ID: 0x1

Device ID: 0x8002

Device Revision: 0x1

UID: 0x00010001009AA5C0

Route String: 3

Firmware Version: 26.2

Port (Upstream):

Status: Device connected

Link Status: 0x2

Port Micro Firmware Version: 2.0.7

Cable Firmware Version: 0.1.18

Cable Serial Number: C4M332400GEDNWFAF

Port:

Status: Device connected

Link Status: 0x2

Port Micro Firmware Version: 2.0.7

Cable Firmware Version: 0.1.18

Cable Serial Number: C4M3437001UDNWFA5



Thunderbolt Display:



Vendor Name: Apple Inc.

Device Name: Thunderbolt Display

Vendor ID: 0x1

Device ID: 0x8002

Device Revision: 0x1

UID: 0x000100010079DA80

Route String: 303

Firmware Version: 26.2

Port (Upstream):

Status: Device connected

Link Status: 0x2

Port Micro Firmware Version: 2.0.7

Cable Firmware Version: 0.1.18

Cable Serial Number: C4M3437001UDNWFA5

Port:

Status: No device connected

Link Status: 0x7

Port Micro Firmware Version: 2.0.7

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