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Glyph View in Character Viewer?

Back in Snow Leopard, we had the possibility to view all characters of a certain font if we selected "View>Glyph" in the character viewer. In Lion, this option seems to be missing. Is there any way to browse all characters of a specific font?


The reason I need this: I have several special fonts with symbols for scientific work (really specialized fonts, with characters you won't find in the symbols Apple provides). In SnowLeopard, they didn't show up in the character viewer as normal symbols, but in Glyph View one could select the font and then all characters were displayed, so one could easily select the right symbol (my friends using Windows could even assign a keyboard shortcut for each character in their character viewer).

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.1)

Posted on Sep 23, 2011 2:33 AM

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Posted on Sep 23, 2011 2:44 AM

With Font Book you can.

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Jul 8, 2012 12:31 AM in response to softwater

Good answer. Thanks! Odd how this is hard to discover. I think the problem is that Apple is using the caption in the upper right pane for two things. Usually, it shows the name of the character, so people stop looking at it. There's no expectation that it's suddenly going to start showing the font name later.


This is why you don't re-use controls in a UI...

Jul 8, 2012 1:48 AM in response to Stokestack

Stokestack wrote:


Odd how this is hard to discover.


Apple's philosophy appears to be that documentation should not be necessary except for power users/developers. It's a mixed blessing.


On the one hand, it does force designers to look for intuitive ways for users to do or discover things rather than relying on documentation to spell things out. On the other hand (and I say this as a professional document writer), there's no such thing as 'obvious for all people' - even in iOS this is true - and there's a limit to how much 'discovery' people will tolerate.


Of course, internet forums like this one largely supercede the need for the never-read-help-manual, but it also does needlessly rub people up the wrong way when trying to do something fairly simple but not being able to second-guess the UI designers thought processes (which sometimes, like the new character viewer, are about as unintuitive as you could get!) or find a quick answer.

Jul 9, 2012 12:18 PM in response to Tom Gewecke

Tom, thank you for your frequent postings on this topic. They've helped me to understand the problems I'm having in OSX 10.7.


I'm trying to type using the font Devanagari MT. The conjunct consonants/ligatures are not working properly. These are toward the bottom of the font's available characters.


I took the Character Palette app from OSX 10.6 and ran in OSX 10.7 as you had advised.


When I ran Character Palette from 10.6 in OSX 10.7, the Character Palette came up properly. I selected "Glyph" in the drop down Menu. When I tried to insert the conjunct consonants in Pages, I got the following message in the status bar at the bottom of the palette, "The application you are currently using doesn't support glyph variants."


What should I do now? From what I've read about and tried with PopChar, the characters I need will not be supported. So that solution won't work for me either.


Thank you Tom

Jul 9, 2012 12:25 PM in response to rm555

rm555 wrote:


I'm trying to type using the font Devanagari MT. The conjunct consonants/ligatures are not working properly. These are toward the bottom of the font's available characters.



You can't use Character Viewer to input Devanagari like that. You use the Devanagari Qwerty keyboard layout in system prefs/language & text/input sources. Conjuncts/ligatures are made by typing a virama (key f) between the two characters. h i n f d i gives you हिन्दी


If there are things you can't figure out how to make with the keyboard, just ask with specifics.

Aug 28, 2012 1:05 PM in response to lemon-kun

Ok, I've found two work-arounds to get Glyph View back (not only the ability to view all characters of a certain font but also being able to copy and paste them).


1. Installing MS Windows with Parallels and use the Windows Character Viewer, which has glyph view. Copy/Paste works from Parallels-Windows to Mac.


2. The better solution: get an old Snow Leopard installation and then copy the app "/System/Library/Input Methods/CharacterPalette.app" which is the old character viewer with glyph view. You can use it as a stand-alone app under Mac OS X 10.7 and 10.8…

Aug 29, 2012 9:17 PM in response to Tom Gewecke

Well, I write about my research in musicology. Usually it is about lute music from the 16th and 17th century. In those days they used various types of tablature notations with various symbols. This is very specialised stuff so you can't even write that music 100% correctly with apps like Finale or Sibelius. There are some apps (most of them Windows only) which were written especially for that, and which contain specially designed fonts.


Now, when you need some of these signs in a (explanatory) text, you take them from one of these lute-specific fonts – it should be the exact same you've used for the musical examples. For that you had glyph view in the old Character Viewer. In (Mountain) Lion's "Special Characters" app you have a similar kind of view which allows you to use those signs: For most fonts you'll find them under "Dingbats", where you can see the Dingbats by font name. However there are fonts which the Mac just doesn't list under Dingbats, and for those you'd still would need glyph view.


It could well be that it's just a problem because the fonts are not coded in the right way, I am no computer expert. But in the old Character viewer app you could just have all available signs of a font listed and selectable (and insert by double-click) in one place, that was very handy.


Of course I don't expect these symbols as being supported, because so few people really need them. However, before Lion it was nice, the Mac was a bit more versatile in that regard – especially for users like me (and most of my colleagues) who don't even really know what "code points" mean (you mean the unicode numbers?)


See enclosed pic with signs I need nearly daily. However these I could find under Dingbats in that particular font. There are others, like various signs for embellishments which fell out of fashion during the last few centuries…


However, even for quite simple standard stuff it would be useful to have glyph view. As an example, if you want to print a CD-label or booklet, you need those little numbers in boxes, for the tracks. Haven't found those in any code table. Now, there is a font of course, at http://www.fontspace.com/fontgrube/cd-numbers. Since it doesn't seem to work to enter the signs by keyboard (it works on Windows however), glyph view would come in very handy. You can list all numbers in Fontbook, however you can't select all of them, because depending on which view option you take, you can either see all of the signs or you're only able to select of a few (unluckily exactly the non-serif are missing there). I believe part of the problem here is that the cd-numbers is a TTF. Using the app Glyph mini I've converted them into Open Type and now one can select them in Fontbook. However: is there any easier way to get such numbers in boxes? It would be very cool if we could have them not only in one font but in various fonts (not only serif and sans serif).


Anyway, here my lute signs:


User uploaded file

Best wishes…

Glyph View in Character Viewer?

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