Well my semi local Apple store manager surprised the heck out of me. I brought my two TBDisplays and computer and TB hub in for a couple rounds of genius bar tech time. After going over the last 3 month long case file, they came to a conclusion. They offered to refund me my entire purchase costs, including my Apple Care plan for the two monitors that I had for nearly 16 months............I jumped at the offer. I wished for this answer, but never thought they would do this. My online and telephone Apple tech said he couldn't make that offer, nor would he tell me who could. The bottom line is Apple knows there is a problem with the TBDisplays. My best guess is there are problems with the built in hub in the displays. Whatever was plugged into the hub, whether another TB display or another hub or the USB ports. Those devices always seemed to be dropped for various reasons. Whether sleep mode or start up or who knows what else. I feel rather lucky at this point. I can now move forward instead of doing the constant try this, try that approach. I had over a year of that type of trouble shooting. Never once did an apple tech tell me they were looking for problems here. But the store manager and genius bar tech were well aware of the issues. Of course me bringing in two TBDisplays, computer and stuff in their original boxes on a busy saturday, might have helped. It doesn't help business to make a scene with a store full of customers. Thank you Apple.