Comparsion between Intel and G4 iMac

I kinda feel like a sucker. I fell for Job's hype at Macworld. 2-3 times faster than a G5 and I had a G4. By golly this one must be 4-5 times faster than my old G4 iMac.
I know to expect much less from a product than the hype (wireless transfer speeds, MPG's, etc) but this claim of 2-3 times faster may be the biggest lie of all time. Turns out it is probably 25% faster, once universal is, well universal.
Is there any testing out there on the difference between a G4 1.25 and an Intel iMac? Something that will make me feel vindicated.
I got a bundle for my old iMac so the upgrade was only around $400 and I have piece of mind of three more years of Applecare, but I do think Apple was reckless in their claims, and I will certainly not buy a new product from them until it gets in the hands of MacAddict and others first.

iMac 17" Intel, Mac OS X (10.4.4)

Posted on Jan 26, 2006 8:49 AM

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Jan 26, 2006 10:09 AM in response to NH Sullivan

What applications are you running, and how are you comparing speed? It's certain that for some applications and uses, the new iMacs are indeed a couple of times faster, but that's not going to be the case for all applications and for all functions. Without knowing what you're running, it's impossible for anyone here to say whether what you're experiencing is normal or whether there's anything that can be done to improve your results.

And just FYI, other than the difference one would expect due to CPU clock speed, a G5 is not automatically faster than a G4 in all cases. Some applications run significantly faster one a G5 than on a G4 (all other factors being equal) but as has been shown in testing, some applications show little improvement, or none at all. So don't extrapolate from the claimed performance of the iMac Core Duo over an iMac G5 and expect your new iMac to be many times faster that your G4; that's not likely except in perhaps some very specific instances.

Regards.

Jan 26, 2006 10:27 AM in response to varjak paw

The overall idea of my post was to show my disgust at hearing 2-3x speed gains, ordering the unit and then reading at www.macworld.com that it is only about 25% faster.
I just want Apple to be honest in the future. All they had to say was hey, we got our first Intel iMac, it is 25% faster and cost the same. Why set yourself up to disappoint your customers.
I can no longer believe Steve Jobs at future events.
Yes it is considerably faster than my G4, no doubt. But I just got back from listening to a Macworld.com podcast and felt like I was fooled. This is my way of venting.
I would love to see a comparsion of G4 to Intel but know it isn't likely.
I love my new iMac but there is a little bit of a cloud hanging over it because Apple cherry picked there benchmarks and mislead us all.

Jan 26, 2006 11:23 AM in response to NH Sullivan

Once again, it depends on what the system is doing. Apple is not lying; they just present the system in the best light; that's what everyone who sells anything does. If you look at MacWorld's tests and Apple's claims, you'll see that there are functions that do indeed perform close to 2x better than the equivalent iMac. But no, all functions are not going to be sped up to that extent. Applications and functions that can take advantage of the dual processor are most likely to be sped up by a significant amount; functions that are stricly linear (such as the iPhoto import and export MacWorld complained about) aren't going to speed up much since they aren't going to take advantage of the dual-core.

I'm sure that we'll also see more improvements in the future as software gets more precisely tuned for the Intel processors.

Yes it is considerably faster than my G4, no doubt.

And it's even faster for most functions than the iMac G5 which would have been your other choice, so what you got is the best-performing iMac Apple's ever offered. Isn't that really what it's about? So why get your knickers in a twist about what some tests show?

Nuff said. These forums really aren't a venue for venting, so unless you're looking for advice about how to optimize the performance of your new iMac, let's leave it at that.

Regards.

Jan 26, 2006 11:46 AM in response to NH Sullivan

I am running the 1.83 GHz Core Duo, it is so much faster than my iMac 700 or PowerBook 867 MHz it isn't even funny. Felt like moving from a Pentium 3 to a Athlon XP. It feels like there are several generations of processors in between.

I haven't owned a iMac G5, but based on using one for 20 minutes in a store using a G5, the Duo feels faster than that as well. The only time the Duo won't run as fast is when it is running Rosetta applications (and it is still about as fast as my G4's were). The 2-3x improvement is true with certain applications (mainly those that make heavy use of multi-threading), but don't expect it on everything. Even if across the board improvement is 25% that is still a huge improvement. A 25% improvement would be like going from a 2 to a 2.5 GHz machine, nothing to scoff at. It is the same price too boot.

I think you will be pleasantly surprised by the performance of the Intel iMac. Just make sure you have 1 GB of RAM (especially if you run Rosetta applications) and don't judge its performance running PowerPC (Rosetta) applications. Every computer manufacturer makes the speed boast. It was a real benchmark, it is just a little misleading.

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