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iPad photo sort order changed with iOS 5

The Photos application packaged with iOS 4 always sorted the photos by the "date taken" from the EXIF data.

The Photos application packaged with iOS 5 uses some other sorting scheme. Possibly "none".


Can anyone shed any light, or is this a bona fide bug?

Posted on Oct 13, 2011 10:43 AM

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Posted on Nov 7, 2011 2:10 PM

I found this discussion by Google search. I must say I originally have bought the iPAD (2) as photo displaying device. First shock was to find out that it was not possible in the photo app to make one's own custom order by simply rearranging pics in albums by touch screen operation. What? "Custom sort" is a feature of even the most basic photo management programs.


Then I slowly got used to the time stamp (photo taken on....) order. WIth iOS 5 everything seems messed up now.


I mean this is the lamest software fail I have come across in a long time. Does anybody at Apple think about what they do? I read that there are people here who have thousands of photos ordered since the iPAD came out.


Now not only do they give a choice of how to order the photos, they also change the way the crap software "itunes" syncs them automatically and without any user option.


This is beyond useless, beyond useless. Apple needs to finally give the user a "custom sort" option. Let them quickly sort photos as you can sort the aps on the iPAD desktop. Easy with your finger.


Until then, the photo app is the user- unfriendliest piece of software I know.


User friendly? Hardly! Sorry, but this is so frustrating...


Bernie

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Nov 17, 2011 7:00 AM in response to Petr80

Hi Petr80.

Interesting fact, which I can agree with. When I sync my iPad 2 from files on a network drive the all get scrumbled on my iPad. When they are on the local disk on the machine where iTunes is installed they are 99% fine (I only found one picture not in order). So the problem does not seem to be only iOS5 related. Most likely it's the new async way of synchronizing iTunes with the iOS which scrambled things up...

Does have anybody more experience with this? Is there anybody who also has the random sorting problem with pictures on the local drive?


Cheers.

Nov 17, 2011 7:21 AM in response to Petr80

Hi Petr80,


good point. I too have this problem since IOS5. My files are on a Samba-Share on a QNAP-NAS. This was no problem under IOS4. Now the sort-order seems to be completly random. I use symbolic links to point to the folders I want to sync.


I wondered why there were not much more complaints about this issue - if this is limited to people storing their files on network share this could be a explanation.


So to me this makes it a bug - the sort order should not be affected by the storage location. It worked under IOS4.


Cheers

Nov 18, 2011 1:29 PM in response to Orthonormal

A good workaround is using the FileBrowser App.

While its main function is accessing files on remote computers, it has got a very nice Photo Library function.

This allows sorting and viewing pictures in a folder ordered alphabetically and 4 other sorts. Problem solved.


It also can show the name of a (photo) file.


If not so much annoyance for all of us, it would be funny that a secondary function of an app outperforms the native iOS5 Photo Viewer.

Nov 19, 2011 12:29 PM in response to frankfromhove

Wel, I got 2 of those 3rd party apps, they both allow different sorting types, alphabetical, date of photo taken etc. Photo manager Pro allows alos simply dragging around of photos to the place you want it to have. Seems that everybody else seems to get it right, except Apple. The only thing that goes for the iOS photo app is its elegant Gui.


It is long overdue that they leave it to the user how to sort photos and finally add that to this app.


Bernie

Nov 20, 2011 7:09 AM in response to markus238

Hi i have a similar configuration: my Photos are stored on a thecus nas and access from iTunes is via SAMBA. I found out that the actual sort order of the photos equals the order the files are listet by the DIR-command in the directory respectivley. Unfortunately the DIRCMD Option /ON does not work as a workaround.


I tried a lot differnent worarounds:

- change the EXIF-dates

- change the filenames

- rewrite the whole folder

...nothing worked for me.


So it seems to me, that iOS 5 ignores the EXIF-Tags, and ignores the Date and Times-settings of the files and it ignores the filenames.


I would call this definetly a bug.


And of course it is not possible to sort the Potos manually on the iPad in an extra folder.

Dec 16, 2011 12:26 AM in response to ekosonic

Me too, photomanager pro, works quite well, allows custom sort, shows EXIFs (another essential shortcoming of the iOS photo viewer). UNfortunately those alternatives are not as sleak as the native viewer, opening/ closing of albums etc.


The really annoying part about this is that they had a working app, and they made it worse. People who built up a big collection of photos cannot use it anymore properly. I have a growing album of my little daughter. The chronologic order is the most natural, showing her growing up gradually. Now with the messed up order this gallery has lost it's charme.


Apple - wake up! And integrate user selectable ordering modes.


Bernhard

Dec 27, 2011 11:46 AM in response to alba63

I also contacted the apple support, and they called me back.

After explaining the problem they told me, that this is not known to apple support.

They checked another database, nothing.


So the problem I have, nobody else has it - according to apple. I mentioned that

the problem could be found at several forums in the internet, but I was not allowed to

send the a mail, because this is not possible. They told me.

Feb 15, 2012 1:09 AM in response to Orthonormal

I had the same problem that the sort order was messed up after an update to iOS5.


I also just found out that iOS 5 seems to have a problem with network shares. I used to store my photos to be synced on a SAMBA share on a linux box. I am working with Windows 7 and NTFS on my local computer. I tried to change the exif dates (DateTimeOriginal, DateTimeDigitized, CreateDate), the file modification or creation date and the file name to define the sort order. Nothing helped.


Then I moved the files to my local hard drive. Still all exif dates and file modification or creation dates are ignored. The files are sorted by filename only (0001.jpg, 0002.jpg...).


My solution: move the files to your local drive.

Feb 17, 2012 2:56 AM in response to Orthonormal

Hi,


Same problem here but SOLVED :-) (for now?)


At the moment I have only one album on my ipad, imported via iTunes, with JPG pics only (no raw)

I have the random order problem both while the pics were imported from an external HD as well as when imported from internal Laptop drive.


What resolved the problem for me was just deleting the "ipod photo cashe" folder from my laptop. (hmm strange that it is called IPOD photo cashe folder). (make a backup first, just in case)

then resync with iTunes (took only seconds)

iTunes then builds a new cashe folder

pics are now in the order I want them.


My photos are named by date (i allways name by date + number when I import pics from camera to Laptop) so if it ist true that iPad does not use EXIF info then it must have reorganized by name.


I hope this also works after i have imported more albums via iTunes to iPad.


good luck.

Feb 17, 2012 7:15 AM in response to Applebginnr

This solution doesn't seem to apply to Windows systems, at least I did not find the described "iPOD (or iPAD) photo cashe" - This remains a huge bug in the iOS photo app that makes the app which was already weak in the beginning even worse. A photo app that doesn't let you control how to order the pics is below acceptable.


Apple seems to prefer to imlement modern fashionable stuff like "photo stream" (that doesn't let you control anything either), but does not fix the basic functions.



Bernie

Feb 17, 2012 8:11 AM in response to alba63

The photo cache folder is stored inside the directory that you tell iTunes to use for photos to be synced. In order to see it, you have to check the box for "show hidden files" in the Windows folder view options.


However, deleting the photo cache does not fix the bug: it does not result in the photos being sorted by the "taken date" in the EXIF data. It may result in the photos being sorted by the filename, but in my case, sorting by filename in the problem I observed when I upgraded to iOS 5.

iPad photo sort order changed with iOS 5

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