Can I delete Newsstand?

robdrage wrote:

Well lets see a picture at an average of 100 kb allows approx 11 pics per Mb

You mean garbage looking pix.

a song at an average of 200 kb allows approx 5 songs per Mb

Wgre are you getting 200kB songs?

iTunes songs are ~4MB-10MB.

Not sure why you're questioning me on this as the numbers i gave were simply an example to demonstrate that 3.9 Mb is not much space in the greater scope of storage on an ipad.

Let's not forget that the problem trying to be solved is a user who is lacking space to complete what they would like to complete with their ipad.

The rest of the diatrtribe in this thread, i find counter-productive to attempting to assist the user to gain insight and knowledge about managing their space.

BTW, I have 55 songs taking up just over 14 Mb of space on my machine so works out to about 260k per sone average and I did state I was being generous in trying to show that 4 Mb is miniscule in comparison.

robdrage wrote:

BTW, I have 55 songs taking up just over 14 Mb of space on my machine

At what bit rate did you RIP those songs?

iTunes purchases (256kbps AAC) are about 1 MB per minute.

32kbps mono works out to ~10MB per hour (what I use for audiobooks)

So 55 songs is about half that bit rate if they are only using 14MB.

I wouldn't even listen to 16kbps mono songs.

Apart from you, I doubt anyone is using such low quality photos and music for anything.

The rest of the diatrtribe in this thread, i find counter-productive to attempting to assist the user to gain insight and knowledge about managing their space.

Alphastorm wrote; "3.9mb is a lot of photos music etc".

It's not a lot of anything. Maybe one song or 5-6 photos.

I did not rip them, they are iTunes purchases of popular songs and artists,

But again, this is not relevant to the topic, let's just agree that your audio collection, music taste and expertise are all better than mine and only continue this discussion in a manner that may be helpful for individuals to understand and manage their storage on their respective devices.

Thank you Chris and have a nice evening.

robdrage wrote:

I did not rip them, they are iTunes purchases of popular songs and artists,

Then these 55 songs are not 14 MB. Maybe 140 MB, but definitle not 14 MB.

But again, this is not relevant to the topic,

Except it is relevant.

Deleting Newsstand would not save any useful space.

Maybe enough for only a couple of iTunes purchased songs.

Chris CA wrote:

robdrage wrote:

I did not rip them, they are iTunes purchases of popular songs and artists,

Then these 55 songs are not 14 MB. Maybe 140 MB, but definitle not 14 MB.

But again, this is not relevant to the topic,

Except it is relevant.

Deleting Newsstand would not save any useful space.

Maybe enough for only a couple of iTunes purchased songs.

Hey, leave him alone. He appears to be one of the good guys.

Philly_Phan wrote:

Chris CA wrote:

robdrage wrote:

I did not rip them, they are iTunes purchases of popular songs and artists,

Then these 55 songs are not 14 MB. Maybe 140 MB, but definitle not 14 MB.

But again, this is not relevant to the topic,

Except it is relevant.

Deleting Newsstand would not save any useful space.

Maybe enough for only a couple of iTunes purchased songs.

Hey, leave him alone. He appears to be one of the good guys.

Agreed. Some people just like to argue.

I understand he's trying to be one of the "good guys" but he's posting incorrect info.

Chris CA wrote:

I understand he's trying to be one of the "good guys" but he's posting incorrect info.

Chris CA wrote:

You mean garbage looking pix.

Apart from you, I doubt anyone is using such low quality photos and music for anything.

That's where I have an issue with your posting. You apparently do not have a background in photography. File sizes vary significantly based very specifically on how the photos are to be used. Consider my pregnant doe photo above. The file size was 15MB RAW/NEF in the camera. After processing in the computer, it became over 300MB TIF, which is appropriate for manipulation but not exactly convenient for distribution (besides, it requires applications software that most persons do not have) so I routinely convert to a 1MB JPG for distribution purposes but I would never consider manipulating a JPG. I then reduced the file size a bit further to comply with Apple's posting restrictions.

Now, all of the above is appropriate if the end-user intends to print the photo but any of those file sizes would be a disaster on a web site. Page load times would be horrendous and viewers would leave the page before the photo loaded (especially if the page included many photos). Besides those file sizes are totally unnecessary on the web. For the web, I would again convert the photo to a 100K GIF file, which not only would look good on a screen but is also the file size that Robdrage indicated.

Now, tell me what is your opinion regarding the "correct" file size for photos?

Hey, I wanna thank you guys for continuing a SOLVED dissucssion from 2011... Thanks for blowing everyones email up who was subscribed to this thread three years ago. Go get yourself a copy of iExplorer.app and delete any apps you want including newstand without jailbreaking. NOW CAN AN ADMIN PLEASE CLOSE THIS TOPIC PERMANENTLY?

Wally David wrote:

Hey, I wanna thank you guys for continuing a SOLVED dissucssion from 2011... Thanks for blowing everyones email up who was subscribed to this thread three years ago. Go get yourself a copy of iExplorer.app and delete any apps you want including newstand without jailbreaking. NOW CAN AN ADMIN PLEASE CLOSE THIS TOPIC PERMANENTLY?

Look to the upper right of this screen and stop whining.

55 iTunes purchased songs are not 14MB. (Unless they were converted from 256 Kbps AAC stereo to 16 Kbps AAC mono).

Photos taken with the iPhone.

How are you checking the size of photos you added, as stored on the iPhone? You converted it to 1MB but did iTunes optimize it when it converted it?

Regardless, if the user's iphone is full then saving 3.8 MB by deleting newsstand is not gonna do much.

AlphaStorm is missing out (let's be generous) an additional 38 100kb GIF files or 2 songs. Then the iPhone is still full. He will need to better manage everything else rather than worrying about what cannot be deleted.

Chris CA wrote:

55 iTunes purchased songs are not 14MB. (Unless they were converted from 256 Kbps AAC stereo to 16 Kbps AAC mono).

Photos taken with the iPhone.

How are you checking the size of photos you added, as stored on the iPhone? You converted it to 1MB but did iTunes optimize it when it converted it?

Regardless, if the user's iphone is full then saving 3.8 MB by deleting newsstand is not gonna do much.

AlphaStorm is missing out (let's be generous) an additional 38 100kb GIF files or 2 songs. Then the iPhone is still full. He will need to better manage everything else rather than worrying about what cannot be deleted.

I do not disagree at all but your previous posts came across like you were dumping on Robdrage.

Dumping on anyone was not my intent. Sorry (to all) about the confusion/misinterpretation/whatever.

NP