Sim Card Failure No Sim with iPhone 4S Anyone Else?

Got the new 32GB iPhone 4S today from AT&T, activated the phone was working all morning, I started experimenting with Siri and a couple minutes later the phone was hotter than usual and I get Sim Card failure, and Bad SIM messages. The phone now only says No Sim. I get home take out the SIM card and put it in my previous iPhone 4 and it works just fine. I then put in a blank micro SIM into the new iPhone 4S, but it still says NO SIM. Thinking the SIM reader got fried some how already.



Anyone else have this problem maybe a bad batch out there, or I just got an unlucky lemon?



I made an appointment for the genius bar tomorrow, but I seriously doubt they will have replacement stock of the 4S already. Guess I will find out what my next course of action will be tomorrow trying to get a replacement since new orders are taking 30 days to ship I am afraid I will have to wait awhile to enjoy the new features of my already paid for phone 😟

Posted on Oct 15, 2011 1:53 AM

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Dec 4, 2011 8:07 PM in response to kennoorcame

Sim failure? I think this is a bigger failure than that on Apple's part. Even with this high a number of views though, we're still a very small percentage of Apple's devices.


I was one of the first few posters on this thread, and count myself fortunate the issue hasn't come back on my 4S since then. I hope it doesn't return, but if it does, the phone is going back to Apple. I didn't buy my 4S to be an iPod. I bought it to be a phone - my family's primary phone. If it's so fatally, fundamentally flawed that it can't perform that basic function reliably, why would I keep it?


Apple has no reason to care about any of these issues. They care about keeping their stockholders happy, and they, in turn, care about money. So give Apple a reason to care. Vote with your feet and your wallets. They won't sit up and take notice if you don't. If you can't get your device working with a simple visit to whatever support you have available in your region, return it. Ask for your money back on the 4S and all accessories, and go spend it on one of Apple's competitors, whose device actually does what it's advertised to do.


What are you waiting for? Apple hasn't answered in what, months? Are you waiting for your return window to expire? I bet Apple is. If you like the 4S too much to return it, then evidently you are happy with what it does do well, for the price you paid. Keep the toy, and go buy a real phone. It's always been the rule that a device dedicated to one purpose will do that purpose best. The 4S is trying to be many things...and perhaps is a jack of all trades, and master of none. Like a Swiss-army knife - has a tool (app) for everything, but you wouldn't really want it at a knife fight.


If you went and bought a new Porsche, and it stalled for several minutes every couple miles, and the dealer wouldn't say a word about the issue, or just as bad, they replace it and the issue persists across multiple vehicles, how long would you wait to get your money back and buy an ordinary vehicle that actually did what it was built to do? Be real nice to take your girlfriend for a spin, only to have her help push it to the curb. Would you wait until you lost your job for not being able to arrive on time? Would you wait until you get rear-ended or caught in the middle of an intersection? It doesn't matter how sexy it is if it doesn't work.


Granted, phone and car are different, but the same principles apply. What about that life-changing phone interview? Bet they'd love to have you 'hang up on them'...they wouldn't call you back. Or, perhaps missing that call that your wife is having the baby, and so you don't get to be there. Or that last call from a creditor before they report you to the credit agency and screw up your credit history for the next 7-10 years.


So, I encourage you folks to quit complaining, and start returning. Stick it to them.

Dec 4, 2011 8:35 PM in response to robsdoghouse

I bought two iPhones, one for myself and the other one for my mom. My mom's worked perfectly. Mine was another story, my sim card was stuck inside, it asked me for PIN.


I thought it was hardware problem. In the end, I ask the service to remove it for me. After that, i foudn out that it couldnt detect ALL sim. Tried different cards.


It took me awhile to be sure that this is Apple's side problem. We own two Macs, 4 iPads, 6 iPods, and never had problem. It takes a while for me to be really sure that it's a defect. Hopefully, Apple can address this. I will try to return it tomorrow.

Dec 4, 2011 10:46 PM in response to dragonbreath

Totally agree with dragonbreath .. a am going to return my 4s 64gb. And never buy phone from apple.


I have ipad 64, ipad 2 64 3g, iphone 3gs and macbook pro. Also I started buying iphones from iphone 2g and so on and all was good. I WAS "FAN of Apple" now all changed.... I p i s s e d off. I will switch to galaxy II. Now using my old nokia. My iphone 4S 64 for $1300 collecting dust in a drower.


I am looking forward to see how apple drops from leader of smartphones down.. where it was before Steve R.I.P.

Dec 4, 2011 11:44 PM in response to robsdoghouse

Та же проблема с отсутствием сети на iphone 4s. Куплен в Великобритании. Отказывается работать с мегафоном (пробовал несколько раз менять симки), сам мегафон прокомментировать не смог. МТС работает прекрасно на том же телефоне. Вообще без нареканий, уже неделю. Проблемы со связью были такие: индикатор сети и оператора есть, но при попытке сделать звонок (отправить смс и т.д.) после длительного ожидания выдавал "не удалось дозвониться", при этом скидывал сеть, искал около 5-и минут, потом давал возможность делать звонки (смс, и т.д.) в течение короткого времени, потом снвоа сбой... Перепробовал все, что есть на форуме, не помогло ничего. Только смена оператора.

Dec 5, 2011 12:00 AM in response to robsdoghouse

Guys, try another cellular provider. It solved the problem for me.

I have used Megafon-Russian with sim failure issue on my Iphone 4s 32. After triyng everything mentioned here, I switched to MTS-Russia and that's it. No sim failure issues at all!


It seems now this is a mobile proveder issue (at least in some cases) and not quite connected with the sim-card itself...

Yet, Apple failed to predict it, to solve it, finally to inform users...


Regards.

Dec 5, 2011 2:08 AM in response to dmitriy69

Тоже подозревал что проблема в симке. Еще кажется что телефон даже не меняет вышки, тоесть выйдя из дому и дойдя до работы он теряет сигнал и спасает перезагрузка. Ты не мог бы сфотографировать как выглядит чип на симке которая у тебя работает и как выглядит на симке которая не работает? Тогда пойду к своему оператору разбератся искать нужную сим карту. Я думаю по схеме на чипе можно определить тип карточки. Вставь или сюда как изображение или пришли мне на nockab[at]gmail.com . Буду очень признателен как и другие неудачлевые покупатели на этом форуме.


Shortly in English:

Could you please make photo of both SIM - of one that does not work and of one that work. Maybe it is possible to show SIM chip scheme to mobile operator service guy and he would able to tell the difference and give SIM that will work.

Dec 5, 2011 2:57 AM in response to Dimash

Тогда спрошу по другому. Я уже читал ту тему. У меня была пердыдущая большая сим карта как Russia Beeline 256k, но я её деактивировал и поставил себе микросим. Тоесть вопрос такой - работают оригинальные микросимки или в основном только определенные обрезанные полноразмерные?

Dec 5, 2011 10:52 AM in response to robsdoghouse

Салют всем.

Я тоже поменял симку и стало все работать без проблем.

Был билайн (микро сим менял раза 3 и пробовал обрезать обычную симку.. Не помогало..)

Потом купил микро сим МТС и все отлично заработало! 3 дня полет нормальный. Ни единого сбоя!

Кстати ставил себе 5.1 beta ... не помогла.

А сегодня получилось понизить прошивку на 5.0.1 (shsh сертификат разумеется был сохранен).

Потестирую батарею на 5.0.1 с рабочей симкой.

Dec 5, 2011 11:41 PM in response to robsdoghouse

same ffcking problems here.............


how can i possibly use a mobile that wont recieve or make calls or texts and shows 'invalid sim' !!!!

how can i possibly use a mobile that wont recieve or make calls or texts and shows 'invalid sim' !!!!

how can i possibly use a mobile that wont recieve or make calls or texts and shows 'invalid sim' !!!!

how can i possibly use a mobile that wont recieve or make calls or texts and shows 'invalid sim' !!!!

how can i possibly use a mobile that wont recieve or make calls or texts and shows 'invalid sim' !!!!

how can i possibly use a mobile that wont recieve or make calls or texts and shows 'invalid sim' !!!!

how can i possibly use a mobile that wont recieve or make calls or texts and shows 'invalid sim' !!!!

how can i possibly use a mobile that wont recieve or make calls or texts and shows 'invalid sim' !!!!

how can i possibly use a mobile that wont recieve or make calls or texts and shows 'invalid sim' !!!!

how can i possibly use a mobile that wont recieve or make calls or texts and shows 'invalid sim' !!!!

how can i possibly use a mobile that wont recieve or make calls or texts and shows 'invalid sim' !!!!

how can i possibly use a mobile that wont recieve or make calls or texts and shows 'invalid sim' !!!!

how can i possibly use a mobile that wont recieve or make calls or texts and shows 'invalid sim' !!!!

how can i possibly use a mobile that wont recieve or make calls or texts and shows 'invalid sim' !!!!

how can i possibly use a mobile that wont recieve or make calls or texts and shows 'invalid sim' !!!!

how can i possibly use a mobile that wont recieve or make calls or texts and shows 'invalid sim' !!!!

how can i possibly use a mobile that wont recieve or make calls or texts and shows 'invalid sim' !!!!

Dec 6, 2011 11:34 AM in response to robsdoghouse

I've few updates to share:


1. I'm actually in US and I disabled the data roaming (so no "3G" signal in the up left corner) in order to avoid to spend a lot of money in traffic and since then NO error messages has been shown. It's now 4 days without turning off the phone, while previously I had at least 3 "no sim" messages a day and I was obliged to reboot.


2. I do notice that when errors appeared in Italy it frequently was in the same time windows during the day: at lunch time, around 1pm and during the afternoon around 5-6pm. It seems strange but I've a good statistics about it.


My provider is Vodafone Italy, I have an iphone 4S 32Gb updated to 5.0.1 and have changed sim card twice.


I'm also boired to read about this ISSUE without any Apple feedback. It's the last time for me with an iphone since it's not business effective at all, above all for battery limitations and for all these issues that are tipical of a low level retail products.


Where is now the Apple Company we all gave our money???

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