Transfer ultraviolet digital copy dvd to iTunes, not Flixster?

JCC123 wrote:

Soon aftwards, some greedy studio heads got to thinking that they can go do this themselves and bypass Apple and Steve Jobs, and that's how UV was born.

So, the fact that UV doesn't work with Apple products is not UV's fault.

I could be wrong, but those two sentences seem to contradict each other. If UV was trying to bypass Apple, then it is their fault that it doesn't work with Apple products, isn't it?

I tried Arkling's instructions and all I got was a canned response saying there are no iTunes codes for this offer (The Hobbit) and it went through all the available options to play it. When I responded that I can't play the UV movie on my TV (the Flixster app won't play it over AirPlay die to licensing restrictions) I got the exact same canned response.

Thats the same for all of us sadly - you're not missing anything though as the UV version is very badly compressed, really badly artifacted and had an bloody aweful green tint (as to all UV encoded films)

I don't know if this is the encodeing itself or the absolute rubish proprietary player you're forced to use, but I'm guessing the former. Green is the luminosity channel in video - a cheap nasty way of compression/encoding is to reduce the bitrate of the red/blue channels to save data (laymans terms - you can google the details I don't need to retype that).

So even if you could play it over airplay or on appletv... it wouldn't be worth watching compared to anything else you can get.

Personally - I'm waiting until it's available on itunes (rental is there) and then I'm going to respond again to their boiler plate dismissal and try again.

I'm in the same loop for my movies.

I was told Universal give iTunes redemption codes for their movies but guess what? You have to be an American or Canadian citizen. Hmmmm, I'm Australian.

I'm so mad, our kids love watching movies on our iPads and Apple TV but we can stream when we are in the car! And, why should we have to? It costs to streaming each time!

Ultraviolet is a step back to the dark ages. :(

*can't stream when in the car

kgillham wrote:

I'm in the same loop for my movies.

I was told Universal give iTunes redemption codes for their movies but guess what? You have to be an American or Canadian citizen. Hmmmm, I'm Australian.

Actually, you have to be in US or Canada.

You can be a citizen of anywhere.

My copy of Flixster lets me download Despicable Me 2 for offline viewing on iPad, Android, Mac and PC. Do you have the latest version of Flixster?

If you are in Australia you also have the option of Eziflix.tv and JB HiFi Now Video if you don't like Flixster.

This is really good discussion. I am glad I found it. As I understand it, The UV deal was set up as a digital locker for your licenses. So, in theory, any media player, including iTunes would be able to verify the license with UV. I have found that several of the BluRay movies that I have purchased recently, use UV to integrate quite nicely with iTunes. I purchased World War Z, Kickass, and Star Trek Into Darkness and Monsters University. For all of them, I was able to redeem the UV code and put the movie right into my iTunes, accessable under purchases from any Apple place (iPad, Itunes on the Desktop, iPod, etc.). It was pretty painless for those. In fact, they side-loaded some features that didn't even come on the disk in the case of Monsters U. In the case of Monsters, though, you had to actually pay an extra 3-4 bucks for the UV copy version! That *****, badly.

Also, I did notice that the playback quality is compromised to a degree. It's fine for watch on a smaller screen, but would look pretty bad on a large one compared to the actual BluRay. Haven't picked up the AppleTV, so I am interested in actually seeing the iTunes quality on a bigger screen. It's nice to have all the digital titles in iTunes, but I don't want to sacrifce quality.

Now, I bought the Argo BluRay as well, and it essentially forced me to use Flixter to redeem the UV copy. And, what's worse is that I multiple Flixter accounts from over the years, and the one I chose was linked to a one of the multiple accounts I had for UV as well. So, I ended up in an endless loop and wasn't able to get the UV copy even in Flixter. But, I really didn't want the UV copy in Flixter at all. I wanted it in iTunes. I messed around with unlinking here and there, and after a few attempts I just gave up. I am sure with some level of effort, I could get that movie into iTunes, but I don't have time for that. All the time I wasted, I could just buy another digital copy in iTunes. I am sure I could contact Flixter support or something, but I don't think they want folks using iTunes. I have read it's owned by studios, so they are trying to roll their own here. In any case, I will definitely research when buying BluRay titles beforehand to make sure that the UV will work with iTunes. I just don't want a balkanized collection, where I am playing some titles on iTunes, some on Flixter.

The only true way to have a 'forever copy' of you movie in the highest possible quality is to purchse the BluRay. Not everyone has iTunes. The UV is supposed to work with a variety of players. The concept is OK until they try to get you to into Flixter via 'drive-by' methods. If iTunes-purchased movies are in fact close enough to BluRay quality, then I can just go that way, I guess. But, I have read that they are not.

MaxumisToo wrote:

This is really good discussion. I am glad I found it. As I understand it, The UV deal was set up as a digital locker for your licenses. So, in theory, any media player, including iTunes would be able to verify the license with UV. I have found that several of the BluRay movies that I have purchased recently, use UV to integrate quite nicely with iTunes. I purchased World War Z, Kickass, and Star Trek Into Darkness and Monsters University. For all of them, I was able to redeem the UV code and put the movie right into my iTunes, accessable under purchases from any Apple place (iPad, Itunes on the Desktop, iPod, etc.). It was pretty painless for those. In fact, they side-loaded some features that didn't even come on the disk in the case of Monsters U. In the case of Monsters, though, you had to actually pay an extra 3-4 bucks for the UV copy version! That *****, badly.

I think you're confused. Apple has never been in the UV consortium nor will they likely to join. That means that there's no way to use UV in iTunes or vice versa. The most likely scenario is that those BluRays has BOTH iTunes AND UV redemption codes. They're completely seperate entities.

22 Pages and still nobody gets it.

If you want a way to view your movies on your Apple device (iPod/iPhone/iPad/Apple TV) then you need to make ALL of your purchases through iTunes.

This is the only guarantee that you have for 100% compatibility.

I already can hear the argument from those of you who don't like that answer and think that you shouldn't HAVE to do it like that but it is very simple...the studios don't HAVE to make the DVD or BluRay Apple friendly.

The studios make their DVDs & BluRays for a wider audience than JUST APPLE USERS and for anyone to think otherwise is just silly. Sometimes a studio will make it easy for everyone to choose (Iron Man 3 for example) and sometimes they won't, if it dosn't work, move on.

Apple products are designed to work together so why not just buy them on iTunes if you love your Apple product so much?

El Pat0 wrote:

22 Pages and still nobody gets it.

If you want a way to view your movies on your Apple device (iPod/iPhone/iPad/Apple TV) then you need to make ALL of your purchases through iTunes.

Including El Pat0.

I want a physical copy, plus the ability to view on Apple products. Most movies that have the digital version include iTunes/UV in one package or you can purchase the version that suits your needs. The occasional product has only support for UV (in my case it was The Hobbit) so I was stuck with no iTunes version. I'm not about to go out and buy an iTunes copy online, that would be paying double when they just should have included the iTunes version in the first place. The Lord of the RIngs discs all came with iTunes versions, why not The Hobbit?

You don't get it. My issue isn't whether it's Apple or not. When I buy a blu-ray with a digital copy, I want a digital copy. It used to be, that I entered a code, and the disk loaded onto iTunes, and whenever I wanted, I could quickly copy it to my iPad or watch it on my computer.

Now, I get a code, and can download the movie. I tried it once, and it took hours to download. Then I could watch it on whichever device I downloaded it to. If I wanted to watch it on an other device, I had to download it again. I can't keep a bunch of movies on my iPad, so every time I want my grandchildren's favorite movie, I have to download it again.

It doesn't have to be iTunes compatible. It just needs to be quick to access whenever I want it on my iPad.

Is there any point in continuing this discussion? All of the aspects have been discussed, and it's been well established that UV does not support iTunes.

All this does now is illustrate why people rip the physical disc instead.

hayesk wrote:

Is there any point in continuing this discussion?

Not really, but it will go on forever...😟

Jeremy Bohn wrote:

I want a physical copy, plus the ability to view on Apple products. Most movies that have the digital version include iTunes/UV in one package or you can purchase the version that suits your needs. The occasional product has only support for UV (in my case it was The Hobbit) so I was stuck with no iTunes version. I'm not about to go out and buy an iTunes copy online, that would be paying double when they just should have included the iTunes version in the first place. The Lord of the RIngs discs all came with iTunes versions, why not The Hobbit?

Hayesk,

I agree with you, there pretty much is no point in continuting this discussion, people don't get it and just want to rant on about what they "used" to get.

Jememy,

Apple charges a flat rate of 33% of the revenue from music sales through the iTunes storefront, regardless of the price that it sells for, I imagine that it has a similar deal for movies as well.

UV probably has a smaller percentage and so it is more cost effective for the studios to use.

If you want a physical copy, then you get whatever digital copy the studio decides to give to you, there is no use ******** about it or lamenting about the glory days of when they used to give out iTunes codes.

You have the choice of buying digital via iTunes with a 100% guarantee that it will play on your iOS device or Apple TV or rolling the dice and buying physical media and getting what the studio feels like giving you and then having to take the extra steps of ripping & converting to the format of your choice.

Either way, it is your choice.