Transfer ultraviolet digital copy dvd to iTunes, not Flixster?

David J. Downs wrote:

The courts have been very clear on this issue. Once I own physical media, I am entited to use that media in any way. I am entitled to rip that media into a digital format and view it on my computer or tablet (regardless of language in the EULA). By extension, if I don't have the capability to rip the software, that doesn't mean I suddenly waive my right to view the media on a computer or tablet. Downloading a digital copy of physical media that I personally own is neither unethical nor immoral, let alone a "bad choice." It may or may not be legal, depending on who you ask and where you live. If it is considered illegal in your area, that's only because Universal wants to sell you more than one copy and has the money necessary to buy votes in the legislature.

How have the courts been very clear? As far as I know (I would love for some lawyers to chime in on this subject!), there have been no court decisions on the matter of digital copies being offered by the studios.

As for the physical media, as another poster has noted, you are not actually entitled to use that media in any way.

Additionally, I think you are confusing legality with morality; in the same paragraph in which you start off with "The courts have been very clear on this issue", you bring up that "downloading a digital copy of physical media that I personally own is neither unethical nor immoral", which, unfortunately, is mostly irrelevant to the courts. Just because you or I might find something ethical or moral does not mean everyone else does.

It is a waste of time to argue with a person who has no knowledge of the law AND who believes that regardless what the law says it doesn't apply to them. Just because there is little chance of getting caught doesn't make it legal.

Then stop arguing. Be the bigger man and don't insist on having the last word. Just drop it and don't respond.

I stated the law that claims you are wrong on ripping. The Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998 prevents you from making a copy if you have to decrypt it. I also stated that this law has not had a court ruling to enforce this provision so it is not completely clear.

The DCMA was crafted by media company law firms and passed into law by politicans who represent Disney et al (i.e., their campaign donors/their owners) and not We The People.

Something being legal doesn't mean is it moral or ethical. Slavery used to be legal. Why do you think that slavery was fine so long as it was legal, BigPhilipK?

In the US, a prospective defendant has probably an 80% chance of landing in the courtroom of a judge who will side with what is just, rather than side with the Disney and their ilk. That is why no companies are moving to enforce EULA terms; they know their chances at winning are poor.

Neither your opinion nor mine has any value. Only the law and court cases matter.

Like I said, people should do what they want with what they own. No one cares except for a few sheep who favor obeying a corrupt government over exercising your own personal liberty.

It was redeemed via UV and yes I perhaps it was the studio. When you redeem your code via UV it gave you a choice Flixtster is the only option I've seen recently.

My other point been that the packaging isn't descriptive enough by not stating it isn't compatible with iTunes.

If the studios want to offer a digital download then they need to be clear what it is and what the compatibility is.

Vinnie wrote:

My other point been that the packaging isn't descriptive enough by not stating it isn't compatible with iTunes.

Why would they state what it does not do?

It also does not state that you cannot use the DVD while it is under your car tire. Perhaps they should put that on the package?

We're not talking about how many Apple devices that have been sold, we're talking about different devices, and there aren't millions of different Apple Devices. There are 8 iPhones, 7 iPads, 3 Apple TV's, and if you count all the laptop's and desktops in the last decade, that would probably be about 20 different iterations. For Ultraviolet Devices, if you count all the different devices from all the phone and tablet manufacturer's, all the telivision manufacturer's, all the streaming network player manufacturer's, all the blu-ray player manufacturer's, all the PC and Notebook manufacturer's, there's definitely a miilion different devices.

echopulse wrote:

We're not talking about how many Apple devices that have been sold, we're talking about different devices, and there aren't millions of different Apple Devices. There are 8 iPhones, 7 iPads, 3 Apple TV's, and if you count all the laptop's and desktops in the last decade, that would probably be about 20 different iterations. For Ultraviolet Devices, if you count all the different devices from all the phone and tablet manufacturer's, all the telivision manufacturer's, all the streaming network player manufacturer's, all the blu-ray player manufacturer's, all the PC and Notebook manufacturer's, there's definitely a miilion different devices.

There are not millions of types of devices that UltraViolet is available on either. Maybe a few thousand, sure, maybe even tens of thousands, but definitely not millions.

I'm new to this thread, but I just wanted to note that my latest christmas gift of the Star Trek "Into Darkness" Ultraviolet Code worked when I entered it directly into iTunes. I assume there are differences in rights depending on what movie you buy?

The UV directions tell you to go to the Ultraviolet/reedem website, but when it was going to make me create an account I said, "F that" and just entered it directly into iTunes and it immediately started downloading the HD movie and extra bonus materials. Two separate downloads. Is this the new way forward with UV?

UPDATE: There are definately differences depending on what movie you buy. Just tried my Dark Knight Trilogy UV code and it is not a valid code.

Message was edited by: brenmangood

Hopefully more titles come with such a versatile code. Thanks for letting us know brenmangood. 🙂

Hey brenmangood - when you say you entered your code directly into iTunes, where exactly do you mean? I tried the only 2 places I knew of - the "search" field & the "redeem code" (for gift cards) field, neither of which worked. I have The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey on Blu-Ray, & I'd love to have it in my iTunes as opposed to Flixster, etc. I don't know if it'll work, but if you tell me where to enter the code, I'll certainly give it a try! Thanks!

-Alicia

brenmangood wrote:

I'm new to this thread, but I just wanted to note that my latest christmas gift of the Star Trek "Into Darkness" Ultraviolet Code worked when I entered it directly into iTunes. I assume there are differences in rights depending on what movie you buy?

The UV directions tell you to go to the Ultraviolet/reedem website, but when it was going to make me create an account I said, "F that" and just entered it directly into iTunes and it immediately started downloading the HD movie and extra bonus materials. Two separate downloads. Is this the new way forward with UV?

UPDATE: There are definately differences depending on what movie you buy. Just tried my Dark Knight Trilogy UV code and it is not a valid code.

Message was edited by: brenmangood

Yeah, some studios ship some movies with both an iTunes digital copy AND an UltraViolet digital copy, which is really nice, and something I wish all the studios would start doing. Others pick one or the other. What makes it more confounding is that the studios don't always advertise it properly on the front. Usually when they say "Blu-ray + DVD + Digital Copy" that means an iTunes digital copy.

From within the iTunes store there is a quick link at the bottom of the page that says "Redeem." It brings you to the page that says "enter your gift card or download code."

That had been my previous experience or when redeeming via UV it then gave you a choice of either Flixster or iTunes.

What really annoys me is the packaging for Fast and Furious 6 didn't say iTunes wouldn't work.

Could you please check your dvd case to see if it states iTunes support.

Vinnie wrote:

What really annoys me is the packaging for Fast and Furious 6 didn't say iTunes wouldn't work.

Why would they state what doesn'twork?

Star Trek into Darkness says "works with iTunes" on the outer packaging.

Well that would because otherwise it's false advertising for a start. Printing " Watch, Anytime, Anywhere " on the box.

Besides they do have that printed on the UV info on some cases I was in the SuperMarket tonight and had a look. So if they say on some packaging "Does not include iTunes file" and on others it doesn't but says the above and shows Tablet, Computer and Smartphone the buyer isn't been informed correctly.

I did also notice on the packaging for one 3D Film Works with iTunes this was a more current movie so perhaps they have learnt and are changing.