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Transfer ultraviolet digital copy dvd to iTunes, not Flixster?

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  • MaxumisToo Calculating status...

    Yes, I guess I am confused. It's easy to get confused. I get it now. Digital Copy not the same a UV Digital copy. Stupid me. So now I get it. No, you can't have a pony. No you can't get your UV digital copy in iTunes. I had another post here deleted that touched on a work around. Seems weird since, others have mentioned the same in this thread. But, stealing is bad, mkay.

     

    I think studios that are worried about revenue might be smart to include an iTunes Digital Copy for an extra fee. Say you get the BluRay for 25 bucks, for an extra 5 bucks you get the digital copy in iTunes. I think Monsters U was marketed that way already come to think of it. Also, when you buy a physical disc from Amazon, they'll sometimes put the movie in your Amazon Cloud as a free rental. Meh. 

  • C F McBlob Level 4 Level 4 (2,705 points)

    And the MPAA still wonders why bootlegging is so prevalent worldwide.

  • JohnnyG76 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I've stopped buying blu-rays that only offer UltraViolet digital keys. Hopefully they will realize how stupid this is when then see pirated copies becoming even more popular.

    They (the studios) need to give us a choice between the two services.

  • El Pat0 Calculating status...

    C F McBlob wrote:

     

    And the MPAA still wonders why bootlegging is so prevalent worldwide.

     

     

    What an ignorant and irresponsible thing to say.

     

    Theft is prevalent because people feel entitled and mistake "want" with "need".

     

    It is high time that people start taking responsbility for their actions instead of blaming others for thier bad behavior.  In this case, you have a CHOICE to buy iOS/Apple TV compatible OR gamble that the physical media that they CHOOSE will have a compatible code and if not, do the work to extract and convert themselves.

     

    Just because you make a bad CHOICE does not give you the "right" to steal.  Learning to live with the consequences of your choices is part of life.

     

     

     

     

     

    I've stopped buying blu-rays that only offer UltraViolet digital keys. Hopefully they will realize how stupid this is when then see pirated copies becoming even more popular.

    They (the studios) need to give us a choice between the two services.

     

     

     

    You've done the right thing in allowing your money to speak for you by not buying something that you don't want.  Maybe the slump in BluRay/DVD sales will push them to offer a choice but don't bet on it.

     

    Maybe instead of blaming JUST THE STUDIOS, we should also pressure APPLE to negotiate a better rate with the studios so that the studios can offer the iTunes code?

  • mrbofus Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    El Pat0 wrote:

     

    C F McBlob wrote:

     

    And the MPAA still wonders why bootlegging is so prevalent worldwide.

     

     

    What an ignorant and irresponsible thing to say.

     

    Theft is prevalent because people feel entitled and mistake "want" with "need".

     

    It is high time that people start taking responsbility for their actions instead of blaming others for thier bad behavior.  In this case, you have a CHOICE to buy iOS/Apple TV compatible OR gamble that the physical media that they CHOOSE will have a compatible code and if not, do the work to extract and convert themselves.

     

    Just because you make a bad CHOICE does not give you the "right" to steal.  Learning to live with the consequences of your choices is part of life.

     

    I don't think he was saying that people SHOULD steal; just that people ARE pirating movies.  Not all people who pirate movies would purchase them if they were readily available, but some percentage of them would.  Heck, there was an article last month about how many movies are pirated because they are not even available for purchase!  ( http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/10/15/people-pirate-movie s-because-they-cant-get-legitimate-copies/ ) Should those people be pirating those movies?  Legally, of course not!  But, if you want a digital copy of those movies, your options have grown much smaller or non-existent.  The reduction (or lack thereof,) of choices is all on the movie studios. 

  • C F McBlob Level 4 Level 4 (2,705 points)

    @El Pat0

     

    Opinions are like sphincters. Everyone has one and most all of them stink, Your post is just proof of that.

  • JohnnyG76 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Here's the response I got from Flickster when I tried to swap a UV key for a iTunes key:

     

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    Thank you for contacting Flixster Customer Care for UltraViolet™. I appreciate the opportunity to assist you today.

    I’m sorry that you are dissatisfied with our UltraViolet copy offer. We understand that you would prefer that our digital copy offer be compatible with Apple's proprietary iTunes service but, as is clearly disclosed on the packaging of our Blu-ray discs, it is not.

    Thank you for contacting us today. If you have any additional questions please clickhere.

    For faster support, we are available for Live Chat by clickinghere.

     

    Thank you,

    Flixster Customer Care for UltraViolet™
    http://support.ultraviolet.flixster.com/

    ==============

     

    I guess they aren't swapping keys like they used too.

    bottom line.. "too bad.. you're stuck with UV if you buy our media"


  • MaxumisToo Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    So, the technical aspect of this question was settled long ago. No, you can't use UV codes to get a copy iTunes. The Flixter application on iOS works well, so other than the inelligance of having your digtial collection separated, I am not sure what the big deal is. You can play the movie on your Apple mobile device. Personally, I have learned to like the Flixter application.

     

    If you have an AppleTV, you may be out of luck unless you want to do a little hacking. Apple, at the moment doesn't allow installation of apps, but you can check out Plexconnect to hack your AppleTV to do what you'd like. But, for the big screen you would want to just play the BluRay disc instead of the lower-quality digital copy anyway. AppleTV is Apple's red-headed step child. It's probably the single worst product they make, and it should not be. But, I digress.

     

    The key point is that others have made is that the content owners don't want or have to use Apple computer's proprietary technology. If you're determined to have all your movies in your iTunes collection, you're going to have to buy an iTunes copy. Not buying Blu-Ray discs that includes only a UV copy and not a iTunes compatable copy, won't have much of an affect at all, because the vast majority of consumers don't really care about having all their movies exclusively in iTunes. So, basically, you'll just deprive yourself of the Blu-Ray discs. It's was nice that for a while you could get digital copies for everything Blu-Ray, but it's time to get over it. 

  • Comusemr Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Kudos MaxumisToo, finally a reasonable and objectionable response.

     

    I am truly amazed at the number of people ranting about UV, whilst making horribly innacurate comments, because they don't want to be bothered with taking a second and actually looking into something.

     

    The following items are some of the items that have well, just not been thought out, or lack the view of the bigger picture that's driving the content at the moment.

     

    "Studios are stealing from us, because they only had UV on my purchase and no iTunes digital copy"

               - The studio's not stealing from your pocket, you are actively throwing money at them if you bought a blu-ray with only UV and didn't want it. The digital/uv/streaming copies that is bundled with their physical purchases is NOT free, and you are actively spending money for the rights to use said digital content. When you buy a blu-ray that is bundled with a DVD/UV/Digital you are spending $3-6 more for that bundle then you would had you only bought the blu-ray. Don't spend extra money on a bundled set that comes only with UV, if you're not wanting a UV copy.

     

    If there's one thing that I think everyone should understand is the reason that UltraViolet was brought about, and why the implementation has been rocky, a universal format will be a good thing in the years to come. A few studios started offering digital content on their discs, but it was limited to just a couple of them at first. Fast forward a bit, now every studio offers digital content on their physical media if you want to pay a few dollars extra. But every studio created their own proprietary software that was required to be installed if you wanted to access a digital copy, which was frustrating to majority of users and led to compatibility issues. At this time you were still stuck with having to download the entire file to every device you wanted it on, and/or transfer it between devices with physical media as there were no viable streaming options. Finally, we arrive at a time when streaming video content over the net becomes viable, with NetFlix/Hulu/etc paving the way. An outside vendor then came up with UltraViolet and sold it to the studios as they finally saw a need for a universal format/platform for the industry, rather than several proprietary platforms. Now, we arrive at the present where UV is still considered to be just coming out of infancy, but is solidifying it's place. Hopefully this gives some people a little more insight, rather than just wondering why the studios came up with UV. 

     

    We cannot place 100% of the blame on the studios for not offering both UV & digital copy with certain titles or from certain studios. iTunes is a proprietary platform, and has complete control over who can provide content and how much it will cost them to be allowed on to the iTunes store. The advent of a universal format allows for more competition, with more companies able to start/grow and take a share of the market. I believe we are going to have to see Apple begin to add support for UV in iTunes before you see the studios continue offering more and more formats on all their media. Think of this just like you would the previous format wars, where VHS won out over BetaMax, BluRay overcame HD-DVD. The industry will eventually sway more to one side and then it'll be a thing of the past. It's also not hard to believe that soon, Blu-Ray and other physical media are going to die out, just like the CD. We can already stream HD content to our freaking cellphones.

     

    All in all, don't whine on the internet because you walked into McDonald's, bought a BigMac and couldn't believe it didn't come with a Whopper.

  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (73,330 points)

    "iTunes is a proprietary platform, and has complete control over who can provide content"

    As is UV.

     

    "I believe we are going to have to see Apple begin to add support for UV in iTunes"

    This won"t happen.

    Apple doesn't want it and UV won't allow it.

  • Howard Brazee Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    When I bought _The Hobbit_, I thought I was getting a digital copy.    Then I discovered that I would have to download the movie to watch that digital version.   At my Internet speeds, that took hours.    Then I discovered that the digital copy I downloaded couldn't be copied to my iPad, but I could download it again there.

     

    Well, I don't keep movies on my iPad, they are too big, I copy them from my computer when I am on a trip and the grandkids want to watch a movie.    I don't want to take hours to download a movie whenever I want it on my iPad.

     

    So the issue is - I thought I paid for a digital copy.   Ultraviolet thought differently.    So next time, I won't trust what it says on the label.

  • thecheat Calculating status...

    Actually you can use the same Ultraviolet code in iTunes for certain movies, if the copyright holders allow for it. I recently purchased Oblivion blu-ray and the code worked for both. So it isn't a question of the technology behind it is a question of if the MPAA and/or the copyright holders will allow for duel code redemption. Its unfortuate, that these movie companies are dictating to their customers and not the other way around. But hopefully this will continue to change with duel redemption codes.

  • AndyBr68 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    From the Flixster website:

    Which iOS devices do you support for movie playback?

    Last Updated: Nov 19, 2013 01:29PM PST

    To play movies on Apple devices you must be using iOS version 6.0.  Playback and download is supported on the following devices:

     

    • iPhone 3GS, 4, 4S, 5, 5C or 5S
    • iPod Touch 4th or 5th generation
    • iPad 2, 3, or 4
    • iPad mini

    Please note, iPhone 1, iPhone 3G, iPad 1 and the first 3 generations of iPod Touch are not currently supported devices for playback.

     

    For security and stability reasons, we do not currently support streaming or downloading of movies on jailbroken devices. You'll need to update to an official iOS release to watch movies in your UltraViolet collection.

  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (73,330 points)

    Flixster is not iTunes.

  • Honos Calculating status...

    Ultraviolet *****!  I too am going to avoid buying anything with Ultraviolet and put my money where my mouth is.

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