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Sort contacts by last name, not phonetic last name

When I try to sort my Contacts by "Last, First", iOS (version 5 on iPhone 4) actually sorts them by Phonetic last name, then phonetic first name. I have populated the Phonetic names of some people with deceptive name spellings so I can voice dial them, but obviously want them to sort by their actual listed spelling—silent letters and all. Is there a way to work around this problem or is this an Apple bug.

iPhone 4, iOS 5

Posted on Oct 19, 2011 10:53 AM

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Posted on Apr 4, 2017 7:48 AM

2017 already and this problem still exists. I'm a long time Android user but decided to switch to Apple when we signed up for a new phone plan. We bought 3 iPhone 6S and 2 iPhone 6S Plus for the family. My wife is Chinese and we need the phonetic spelling for the phones to recognize names properly when voice dialing. I just got off the phone with Apple support and they even admitted that this is not desireable behavior. A search on Google brought up 800,000+ results about "iphone sorting by phonetic name" for goodness' sake. I am returning all of these phones tomorrow and exchanging them for Galaxy S8 and S8 Plus phones. How could a HUGE 7 year old problem like this be completely ignored by Apple!? It's not even a significant code requirement. It couldn't possibly be more than 20 lines of code, and would probably be 1-2 lines of code if they didn't implement an option but rather just changed the code in the sorting method to go by the actual names. Any competent developer could write the sequence in under an hour. Ridiculous.

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Jan 22, 2012 8:51 AM in response to A. Heimert

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It does. But for some reason sometimes the same fields would overwrite or disappear after syncing. I've had to totally turn off iCloud addressbook syncing on other devices that I only sync with my mac addressbook and do manual sync in order to even get gmail syncing done nicely with the least amount of errors.


This could also be a legacy issue as my addressbook has been imported for over 15 years from system to system and format to format. There could be some corrupted data that doesn't show up as errors and what not is my guess. Only way to clean that up is to redo all the entries again imo but that takes a **** of a lot of time to do.

Jan 22, 2012 8:56 AM in response to John Muccigrosso

Apple's asian character imput is the best I've ever seen although when I tried out Windows 7 version of double byte character input, its very close to what Apple has. You can also use the touchscreen or the trackpad to "write" the characters although the small screen for the iphone inputting via keyboard is easier than trying to "write" the characters.


Apple's unicode implementation is also very nice. The issues I have are really just my refusal to change my workflow. Old habits die hard you know especially for an old fart like me coming from an IT background from the late 80s.

Sep 14, 2016 5:57 AM in response to LinkTiger

Do not use Phonetic Name as the field type you are adding. If you are trying to get Siri to 'say' the name properly, or recognize voice dictaction of a name, choose Pronunciation (name type). iPhone does not use pronunciation for sorting. You can also (using siri) say "Who is blah blah contact" and then say "You didn't pronounce blah blah contact right". Siri will apologize for getting it wrong, and ask you to say the name. Siri then presents a few options on how you want it pronounced. I used this method to fix a contact with the first name spelled "Roxi" that voice dictation insisted be spelled "Roxy". I added the contact, and added the pronunciation "Roxy" to the "Roxi" contact. It now inserts the assumed to be correct name "Roxi" instead of the more usual way of spelling it "Roxy".

Sort contacts by last name, not phonetic last name

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