Iphone 4s Battery life WORSE with upgrade. Anyone else seeing same?

Yeah no problem Holman. I was just making you aware of what Apple said (on their link) and providing the link also. No problem and no offence taken 😉

So is the argument that iCloud push accounts are an issue, or ALL push accounts?

I would say iCloud push.

Since I converted to iCloud (from MobileMe), my push email has been intermittent. Sometimes I would get regular email pushes throughout the day - i.e. in 2/3 groups and the times of the emails were close to the time I would receive them.

Other times nothing for many hours, sometimes over 24 hours. Then all of a sudden I would get 30+ emails pushed all at once. Many time stamped from several hour earlier.

See, but I've had battery issues and I have had my iCloud email set to manual fetch (I do have gmail set up as an exchange account, which is still set to push).

I don't have the crazy drain while in standby mode that some are experiencing, just a rapid drain that occurs with quite minimal use.

tal1971,

Thanks for the link and thanks for just letting the debate over the care and feeding of l-ion batteries drop. It is an interesting subject but for me it has become like a conversation about Area 51, everyone has a different opinion about what goes on there and the conversation once started seems to go on forever with out end.

I will say, regardless of battery conditioning beliefs I don't think it has anything to do with the problem of high battery consumption and or phones running very warm that people are having.

And rather than rehash some of the things I think help solve the excessive battery drain problem I will just say for the benefit of others that stumble on this thread - "This is not a new problem with the iPhone 4S but has existed as far back as the iPhone 3S and maybe even the 3. Sooo if someone cares to look into it just search for "iPhone Battery Drain" and you will get more hits than you probably ever wanted to get and the solutions post that people claim solved their problem always seem to revolve around "Restore as new" and/or deleting your mail accounts and manually adding them back (and not via a backup restore).

I've had all 5 iPhones and this is pretty much the norm with the first few versions of the new software. iOS 3 was a problem and when iOS 4 came out, same thing. And now iOS 5. It usually clears itself up by the 2nd or 3rd software update.

So I should wait another 2-3 months before I have a usable phone? Umm... not helpful.

menace,

The answer to your question is a resounding NO.

1. If you allow the the high battery consumption to persist you will damage the life expectancy of you battery.

I don't know if you have tried the "Restore as New" and/or delete and manually restore your e-mail accounts but this has worked on all my iPhones at least as far back as the -3- and this has worked for many other folks as well.

Excessive battery draw and heat is very rough on l-ion battery life expectancy.

Limegrntaln,

Thanks for seconding my statement that this problem is nothing new.

I have been telling people that it existed as far back as the 3S and maybe the 3. The problem is for folks that are on their first iPhone or got in on the later revisions of previous iPhone and did see the problem until now are left with the conclusion that Apple has NOT lived up to their expectations of Apple quality and almost out of blind loyalty or incredible disappointment will not try any of the suggested fixes posted in this thread or elsewhere.

Anyway it is sad that Apple has not jumped on this problem. I know for a fact that Apple Support does monitor these forums and knows this problem exist and has known it as far back as the 3S. People will say they don't monitor this forum - why I don't know but when I was having this same battery issue with my 3S I received an email from some Apple engineering or Tech Support group asking me to work with them on this issue which I did.

They never came up with a fix for me but I did stumble on the "Restore as new" and the delete the email accounts and manually add them back and for me it was the "Perfect Fix".

Just to be annoyingly repetitive - I will warn people that allowing heavy battery drain to continue for prolonged periods of time will damage your battery or at best shorten the life expectancy of the battery.

Holman, right, I was making the assumption he meant reboot when saying reset and not that it was the only thing that resolves the issue. I think something about the install of 5.0.1 if simply left alone after it completes the process on its own left my phone draining fast and getting hot. Performing the reboot and changing nothing else made that problem go away. I had experienced some of the other symptoms when I first got the 4s and performed the tweaks as noted elsewhere (email accounts remove/add, time zone, etc) and resolved my pre-patch issues. So I fell in the camp of "it was fine, installed patch, immediately got bad, rebooted, fine again".

I have the same issue with the battery on my two iphone 4s....made an appointment and took it to the store and the guy runs some diagnostics and comes back and says the battery is fine....i even showed him the battery drain infront of his eyes and he says thats normal because of the processor.

Do any of you have any updates and the problem is even worse after updating the 5.0.1 patch.

Could anyone explain why a cable connected update is (5.0.1) is several hundre mb, yet over that air is only 47mb or so?

Why does a cable update need to update the whole OS?

gone4arun,

Now you are making me jealous... I never could get a reboot to fix it. I always had to do it the hard way with all the restore and email stuff.

Now you know why I don't buy lottery tickets. 😟

"Restore as new" is a pretty crappy "solution," if you ask me. There's certainly no guarantee it will do anything, and you lose all of the data from your apps (as there is still no way to save specific app data independently).

mamta,

This whole thread (while off topic occasionally) is about exactly what you are experiencing.

One quick caveat, "worse after teh 5.01" kind of indicates that the problem was there prior to the update. That may or may not be true, remember anyone coming from an iPhone -4- or earlier is not used to the extra battery draw that the out-of-box 4S has. I believe the out of the box current draw may be just the price you pay for the extra features.

That said after the 5.01 update you will find that a lot of people are experiencing the problem with battery consumption that you are having.

The fact that the folks at Apple said "Live with it" is not very surprising. They are instructed to pass off as normal anything they can't explain and Apple doesn't want to end up hold a gazillion replacement units like they did with the iPhone -4- and they replaced a bunch.

Please to all the "Fanboys" don't take affense at my critisicim of Apple or the term "Fanboy". Ever since my first iPhone I have never been able to go back to anyother phone and believe I have a few bones to pick with Apple but once you get your hands on a NORMALLY functioning iPhone ... well I will just equate it to Crack Cocaine, you will be hooked for life.

Please "mamta" try the "Restore as new" and/or delete and manually re-install your email and I guess as "gone4arun" suggest try a "Hard Reboot" first (albeit I have never been lucky enough to have that method solve the problem). Please make sure you have backed up anything of importance to you. The reboot will not lose anything but a Restore as new will delete any photos on your phone and you will need access to a method of re-syncing your contacts etc. so if you go that route back them up first.