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hoffmanFamily4 Level 1 Level 1

Two REAL problems I notice with iTunes Match:


1. Any Smart Playlist that refers to another playlist will not upload to iCloud.  That is COMPLETELY ABSURD!!! I have many smart playlists that use "builder" lists to help refine what they contain.  Makes me want my money back.


2. Limits to playlists, such as "Limit to 40 lest recently played items" are not honered.  When viewed on the iOS device, the full playlist is shown, not the one limited.  I use this for a number of reasons, not repeating, not playing too often, etc. Why is this configured that way?


All this said, there is a possibility I am doing something wrong. If anyone knows better, please advise.



MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.2)
  • Walter Bidwell Level 1 Level 1

    I've hit a similar problem, I have a smart playlist that's limited to 150 most played songs. Right now it shows my entire libary of 6 thousand plus on my iPhone. However I have other smart playlists that are fine and playing by the "rules". Going to give it alittle time and the delet the playlist and build a new one. will let you know if that works!

  • hoffmanFamily4 Level 1 Level 1

    Great, that would be helpful.


    But we shouldn't have to completely change the way we create our lists, IMHO. It shoul, ahhh, just work.  ;-)

  • Rangeshooter Level 1 Level 1

    I'm running into the exact same problem. I agree, it's absurd that I cannot sync nested playlists. Not only that, when I touch a nested playlist on my iPhone it crashes the music app or freezes my iPhone and I have to reboot. For me, the nested playlist issue + no Genius playlists = EPIC FAIL.

  • SJK969 Level 1 Level 1

    I, too, am having the problem of a Smart Playlist is not eligible for icloud because it references another playlist.  Unfortunately, it's my main/usual playlist so not being able to sync it to the cloud and my iPod is kind of a deal-breaker.  I'll go back to tethered synching.  I guess I paid $25 for nothing.

  • brucefromelkhart Level 1 Level 1

    I don't think the iOS devices have ever understtod things like 'Last Played' in smart playlists. With Match, this becomes a big issue, however. I have playlists like Media Kind=Music and Last Played>9 months. On my iPad and iPhone, these contain all my music.


    Like others have stated, this is a deal breaker for me (along with the fact that Plays and Last Played does not update when I play a song from the cloud on an iOS device).



  • sweetsdream Level 1 Level 1

    I had a few smart playlists that referenced other playlists and it simply doesn't work with match at this time. I was really excited about the potential of the service and signed up right away but this was pretty much a deal breaker for me. I just got done turning iTunes match off on all my devices, even my MacBook and requested a refund.  I hope they get these bugs/features working right in future releases.

  • nmaviano Level 1 Level 1

    I am having the same problems on my iPhone and iPad.  Smart playlists are correct when signing into different computers in iTunes (regular/manual playlists transfer over fine).  However, smart playlists are not correct at all on my iPhone and iPad.  They do not appear to have any ruleset that matches the criteria I set up.  This is a deal breaker.  Apple, please fix!  If anyone finds a way to fix this, please let me know. 

  • willfromboston Level 1 Level 1

    I'm also seeing the problem with "limit to". In recently added music, I set it to bring in all music from the last 24 months and limit to 200 songs... I'm getting all 600. Doesn't seem to be working properly!!

  • Richardgm Level 1 Level 1

    The limits to smart playlists are not being honored on iOS for me too! Really annoying.

  • TempeJim Level 1 Level 1

    It isn't only iPhone and iPad, but Apple TV too.  I guess any iOS device is having serious issues with these smart playlists. 


    Too bad, I really rely on them. 

  • 09Laramie Level 1 Level 1

    I have some folders that contain playlists that are all "Not Eligible" since they reference other playlists. When I try to browse to those folders on my iPhone 4S, the Music App freezes every time. Some of the times that I tried this, I was able to get back out to the home screen and force quit the Music App (though this was not graceful- the home and hold buttons didn't do anything until I left the phone alone long enough for the display to "go to sleep" on its own). The last time I tried to access one of those folders on my device, I kept the screen active, and the 4S eventually rebooted itself.

  • ltk2k7 Level 1 Level 1

    Having the same issue here, my iPad and iPhone smart playlists are all screwed up.

  • andrewhake Level 1 Level 1

    Seeing the same issue as listed. This smart playlist issue and the lack of real streaming to iOS devices is quite frustrating. I don't see any reason to not just have an option available to only stream the music. Even giving the option to disable streaming while on 3G to keep people from having data overages. Really though, I would be happy if my Smart playlists would correctly stay in sync and the SORT ORDER would follow whaterver option I had last set on my Mac. Or even better give a sorting option on iOS for playlists.


    Anyway, everyone that has posted please make an effort to hit up to make sure this is well documented.

  • JoeSerna Level 1 Level 1
    Mac OS X

    If you want to, you can disable the use of 3G data in Options > Store and disable the use of data over 3G for music.


    Regarding the options to sync playlists with limits or referring to other playlists I also have that problem.

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