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Why won't my Mac Pro 5,1 boot Snow Leopard?

My old Mac Pro 1,1 died. I replaced it with a new Mac Pro 5,1. (dual Westmere quad core) Apple told me it would run Snow Leopard. The new machine recognizes my old Snow Leopard hard drives as start-up disks but does not boot past the gray screen apple logo. I was very good about keeping the operating systems up to date. I am pretty sure that I have OS 10.6.8 installed... I have two Snow Leopard disks that won't boot and a Leopard disk that also shows up as a start-up disk that does not boot either. All stall at the gray screen Apple logo.



What gives????


I am pretty disappointed. I need Rosetta back!


Mike

Mac Pro

Posted on Dec 1, 2011 1:04 AM

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Dec 2, 2011 8:42 AM in response to Michael Sciascia

Michael Sciascia wrote:


My old Mac Pro 1,1 died. I replaced it with a new Mac Pro 5,1. (dual Westmere quad core) Apple told me it would run Snow Leopard. The new machine recognizes my old Snow Leopard hard drives as start-up disks but does not boot past the gray screen apple logo....

...I need Rosetta back!

I took almost exactly the same route you have: 1,1 to 5,1 six core. And I booted off a clone of my 1,1 OS 10.6.8 boot disk which worked. However, before the purchase, I asked Apple Tech Support a number of times if a Mac Pro that came with Lion installed (i.e., after Lion's release date) would accept a Snow Leopard install and was told uniformly no, that it would have something built in (firmware?) to prevent it, so I ordered mine just before Lion was released. As The hatter says, it might have Lion firmware.


Just for kicks, have you tried booting from the 1,1 disk in Safe Mode?

Dec 2, 2011 9:32 AM in response to FatMac-MacPro

The refurbished store is always a good place to buy tested and reliable, and of course just post the firmware version of both yours and some others. We have seen 'downgrades' go just fine.


Or, if you new Mac has Lion firmware then it has net-install and a mini-AHT ability in firmware and connected to Apple servers.


I don't see why they crippled and took UEFI and turned it into a means to push and force upgrades. Not every Pro Suite and user is ready for Lion yet. Software upgrade costs, and some needs at minimum more than a little tweak and push. Buying the 2010 I guess just got harder unless Specials (they still sell those 2009s too)

Dec 2, 2011 6:55 PM in response to Michael Sciascia

Well, the ruling from the Apple Care people is that it won't run anything but Lion and never will. So much for the online and in store expertise of the Apple Store salesman who advised me that it would run Snow Leopard.


Apparently the only way to get Snow Leopard to boot is to buy a refurbished Mac with Snow Leopard already installed....


As for Snow Leopard and Leopard showing up as valid choices in the Start-Up preferances panel.... they didn't seem to think that was a problem.


I'll be giving serious thought to returning the computer for a refund.


Ouch!

Feb 26, 2014 5:27 PM in response to Michael Sciascia

This is a very old post, but I found it when I tried and failed to boot my 2010 model 5,1 westmere 12 core from a Snow Leopard family pack install disk, in order to install the OS on a firewire attached hard drive. I then tried to boot from my original install disks that came with the Mac Pro, and it booted just fine from that one. My mac pro has never gone beyond Snow Leopard 10.6.8....

Feb 26, 2014 8:55 PM in response to daveseeley

Mac Pro

Date introduced

Original Mac OS X included
(see Tips 1 and 3)

Later Mac OS X included
(see Tip 1)

Mac OS X Build(s)
(see Tip 2)

Mac Pro (Late 2013) Dec 2013 10.9 13A4023
Mac Pro (Mid 2012) Jun 2012 10.7.3 10.8, 10.8.3 11D2001, 12A269, 12D78
Mac Pro (Mid 2010) Aug 2010 10.6.4 10.7, 10.7.2, 10.7.3 10F2521, 10F2554, 11A511a, 11C74, 11D2001
Mac Pro with Mac OS X Server (Mid 2010) Aug 2010 10.6.4 10.7, 10.7.2, 10.7.3 (Server) 10F2522, 11A511a, 11C74, 11D2001 (Server)
Mac Pro (Early 2009) Mar 2009 10.5.6 10.6 9G3553, 10A432
Mac Pro (Early 2008)

Jan 2008

10.5.1

10.5.2, 10.5.4

9B2117, 9C2031, 9E25
Mac Pro

Aug 2006

10.4.7

10.4.8, 10.4.9, 10.4.10, 10.5

8K1079, 8N1430, 8N1250, 8K1124, 8P4037, 8R3032, 8R3041, 9A581, 9A3129



from:


MacOSX: versions (builds) for computers


What this shows is that if you can build a verion of 10.6.8 using another Mac, starting from a "Full Retail" DVD (so that "drivers for every appropriate Mac" are included) it will boot the Mac Pro 5,1 from 2010. Users here have determined that, since the 2012 model uses the same firmware with no significant new hardware changes, it will actually boot that one as well.


Starting with a DVD that "shipped in the box" with a different model Mac will not include the right drivers, even after update.

Feb 26, 2014 9:21 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Grant,

I didn't try to boot a my 12 core Mac Pro with a gray "shipped in the box" disk from a different mac. The one that failed to boot my Mac Pro was a full retail family pac Snow Leopard disk... The one that did boot my Mac Pro was the gray disk that shipped with it. Still, I think your chart explains why my retail disk didn't boot it. It was 10.6.3, and my Mac was 10.6.4.

Why won't my Mac Pro 5,1 boot Snow Leopard?

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