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I have Lion on my Mac ProBook. Using Pages "09 4.1 I can't get special character like "Emoji" to work! Punctuation, arrows, etc work fine.

Why does Pages '09 Version 4.1 offer "special characters" when many are NOT SUPPORTED (according to the user guide) when I try to insert one into my text? My son-in-law is a zombie freak. A picture of a skull looks like it should be available in the "Emoji" section; but it will not, nor will any other emticon, consent to showing up in my text! ๐Ÿ™‚ < And this is all I can get on this site! The angry face wouldn't budge! I can get all the arrows, monetary symbols, upsidedown ? and tilde n's to last a lifetime.


For now I all I want from Santa is a skull, a puppy and maybe a dinosaur ..... the last 2 are for grandkids!

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.2)

Posted on Dec 3, 2011 5:49 PM

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Dec 3, 2011 7:07 PM in response to JanDeer

Jan


These are two entirely different things. The "Special Characters" are Unicode characters in fonts.


Emoticons and Emoji are substituted icons for certain typed combinations like : ) ๐Ÿ™‚, : ( ๐Ÿ˜Ÿ. This is a software trick.


If you want the actual little pictures just go to the various websites where they are available and copy paste or drag them into Pages like any other graphic.


http://www.bandoo.com/?ad=153


Recently emoji have been added to the Unicode set:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoji


But you need to find a font that actually includes them as glyphs. This is the only one I can find and don't know if it meets your needs:


http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/EMOJI001.TTF


Emoticons and Emoji are common for browsers and email where such indicators of otherwise hard to tell facial expresions are useful. Such usage in a Word Processor or DTP application is very much a minority usage and perfectly met by simple imported graphics.


Peter


PS How do you not get these emoticons: ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ˜ ๐Ÿ˜ ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ˜ ๐Ÿ˜  ๐Ÿ˜Š ๐Ÿ˜• ๐Ÿ˜Ž ๐Ÿ˜ข ๐Ÿ‘ฟ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜ ๐Ÿ˜Ÿ ๐Ÿ˜ฎ โ„น โž• โž– โš 

Dec 3, 2011 7:15 PM in response to JanDeer

JanDeer wrote:


A picture of a skull looks like it should be available in the "Emoji" section; but it will not, nor will any other emticon, consent to showing up in my text!


The problem is that Pages does not yet support the special Apple Color Emoji font included with Lion. It will however produce these characters if you install the normal black/white font Symbola, available via the archive link at


http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/

Dec 3, 2011 7:33 PM in response to Tom Gewecke

Tom


It looks like Pages '09 predates the changes in the Unicode allocation which were really to meet compatibility needs on mobile phones.


I think this should not be a high priority in a WP/DTP application. I can think of much more urgent updates for Apple to get on with.


Personally I'd like a fondue set in the driver's armrest of my car, but I have been unable to pursuade BMW or Mercedes to come up with this obvious requirement. ๐Ÿ™‚


Peter

Dec 3, 2011 7:40 PM in response to PeterBreis0807

Thanks Peter, I tried the Font Book suggestion someone else made. However, its Help/Info guide said I had to install the fonts I wanted. When I tried it exclaimed "Errors and Warnings"!!! "Proceed with Caution"!!!!! A moot warning because the install box was grey. No fast forward there!


Not sure why in my last post that I could only happy face. Right now I can get no emo! I'll try the above suggestions also but I am such a Luddite!

Dec 4, 2011 5:52 AM in response to Tom Gewecke

Hi Tom


I installed Symbola for see.

When I insert emoticons in Pages, I get only black and white chars and the figure doesn't match the Unicode ones.

Just one example :

Unicode U+1F498 (HEART WITH ARROW)

User uploaded file

In fact, it seems that the problem is that Pages is unable to display colored emoji.


When I insert in TextEdit Emojis from Apple Emoji couleur, EMOJI001.TTF and Symbola.ttf,

I get identical colored chars for the first two fonts, black & white ones from the 3rd one.


If I copy-paste to Pages, nothing is displayed for the two first ones, only the 3rd one appear.


Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) dimanche 4 janvier 2011 14:41:42

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Dec 4, 2011 7:39 AM in response to KOENIG Yvan

Hi Yvan,


For the "official" Unicode version of a glyph you need to look at the Unicode pdf charts instead of what is displayed on your Mac from its installed fonts.


http://unicode.org/charts/PDF/Unicode-6.0/U60-1F300.pdf


Of course Unicode does not do color, so the standard glyph is always black and white. In fact, Apple Color Emoji is an Apple-only extension of standard font capabilities. I don't think you will find any other color fonts around, and I think you will find there are lots of situations in which Apple Color Emoji will not function.

Dec 4, 2011 8:00 AM in response to Tom Gewecke

Thanks Tom


(1) So, we have a new instance of Apple's "Think different" rule.

Not only they apply colors to the emojis but they changed their basic figures.


(2) I misunderstood your sentence :

Pages can display the new unicode emoji allocation just fine, as long as you use some other font than the one Apple provides with Lion.

I thought that you were saying that Pages was able to display colored emojis using Symbola ๐Ÿ˜Ÿ


(3) It's a bit funny to see :

BLUE HEART, GREEN HEART, PURPLE HEART, GREEN BOOK, BLUE BOOK, ORANGE BOOK, LARGE RED CIRCLE, LARGE BLUE CIRCLE, LARGE ORANGE DIAMOND, LARGE BLUE DIAMOND, SMALL ORANGE DIAMOND, SMALL BLUE DIAMOND, UP-POINTING RED TRIANGLE, DOWN-POINTING RED TRIANGLE, UP-POINTING SMALL RED TRIANGLE, DOWN-POINTING SMALL RED TRIANGLE in a black & white only set of chars ๐Ÿ˜‰


(4) The colored Emojis are also available in EMOJI001.TTF but I don't know if non Apple apps are able to display them.


(5) Is Pages for iOS aware of Apple Color Emoji ?


Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) dimanche 4 janvier 2011 16:51:56

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I have Lion on my Mac ProBook. Using Pages "09 4.1 I can't get special character like "Emoji" to work! Punctuation, arrows, etc work fine.

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