Logic Pro - 19GB of 'optional' content available via in-app purchase.

coxorange wrote:

Thanks for your answer. Do I understand this correctly, that I have to interrupt the download to be able to use the installers for the other Macs?

Hi

Yes...'fraid so... the installer packages are deleted once the installer has run... to grab the installers you have to "interupt' the process after download, but before the installers run (Asks for Admin Password).

coxorange wrote:

But what if it's too late for that, if I already installed everything on my first Mac? Would it alternatively be possible to copy the installed content files to my other Macs? If yes, what and how?

Simply copy the folders to the equivalent locations on your other Macs

This is a big list:

<Startup Disk>:Library:Application Support:Logic

<Startup Disk>:Library:Application Support:garageband:Instrument Library

<Startup Disk>:Library:Audio:Apple Loops

<Startup Disk>:Library:Audio:Impulse Responses

That should (?) be it

CCT

siderealxxx wrote:

Blueberry wrote:

(actually 2GB are required to be downloaded on first launch)

How is this content optional if it must be downloaded?! So actually the App is 413MB + 2GB = 2.413GB... SO WHY DON'T APPLE SAY THAT IN THE FIRST PLACE?!

Life out in California must be sweet for those guys. Sorry I'm having a rant about this!

I have to agree - I'm working from home over VPN today and figured I had enough time to download Logic Pro on the Mac before some stuff would arrive on the PC in need of my urgent attention. Having just launched Logic Pro it says it has embarked on a 2GB download of essential items - why on earth don't they just stipulate the download is 2.4GB to begin with!

Perhaps it's to do with updates being more lightweight if these components are already installed but still seems daft.

I could interrupt the download I guess but hate doing things like that in case it hoses anything - it probably won't but you never know.

Does Logic Pro start without these components or just Quite if you cancel the download?

AC

The 2GB is the minimum require content for Logic Pro without it you won't have a most instruments and effects - there is no way to avoid downloading it.

Thanks - if that's what it needs so be it, my point was it would just be more sensible for the store to list the minimum requirement as the download size to accurately reflect this.

AC

I have a client who suffered the same fate, she was upgrading from Logic Express and figured the download was only the size listed in the App store. She has a slow DSL connection and figured it wouldn't be that bad a download. As for getting the 20GB of additional data... she will have to depend on someone else to download it, use a work-around to save it and then install it.

Apple should offer the disks on special order.

Welcome to the "new Apple' where the customer comes last.

I think Apple have taken the 'like it or lump it' approach for several years now - 'do it our way or don't bother' seems to be the attitude with many things. .Mac to MobileMe, MobileMe to iCloud with loss of numerous features, rapid hardware refresh cycles for portable devices with usable ones from a few years ago turned into legacy devices due to lack of current iOS support or deliberate exclusion of certain features. Rosetta out of the window with Lion. Insisting on certain hardware requirements before allowing apps to be bought, even though they will work when transferred to a 'below spec' machine (eg my Mac Pro would not download FCP X due to incompatible GPU, but app worked when copied over from my newer Mac Mini).

I have to say though that while initially sceptical about the Mac App store it has given us several high-end apps at far more reasonable prices than the old boxed offerings, though certain things have fallen by the wayside in the process.

Alley_Cat wrote:

I have to say though that while initially sceptical about the Mac App store it has given us several high-end apps at far more reasonable prices than the old boxed offerings, though certain things have fallen by the wayside in the process.

Apple is a hardware company, that's where they make their money. The fast turnover and limited support for older operating systems is designed to sell hardware. Logic 8 actually runs better under Lion (far more efficient) than Logic 9, it's just that Logic 8 will not install under Lion. Same with the reduced prices on high spec software... again, designed to sell hardware.

This doesn't really answer anyone's questions, but it might help some people. Here is a list of the optional install packages. I think it's all (19GB) of them. (Correct me if I'm wrong!) Maybe you can get a friend to download them elsewhere where the internet is faster or has more bandwidth. Hope this helps!

http://audiocontentdownload.apple.com/lp9_ms2_content_2011/GarageBand11Instrumen tsPro.pkg

http://audiocontentdownload.apple.com/lp9_ms2_content_2011/JamPack1.pkg

http://audiocontentdownload.apple.com/lp9_ms2_content_2011/JamPack4_Instruments. pkg

http://audiocontentdownload.apple.com/lp9_ms2_content_2011/JamPackOneInstruments Surround.pkg

http://audiocontentdownload.apple.com/lp9_ms2_content_2011/JamPackOneLoopsAAC.pk g

http://audiocontentdownload.apple.com/lp9_ms2_content_2011/JamPackOrchestralInst rumentsSurround.pkg

http://audiocontentdownload.apple.com/lp9_ms2_content_2011/JamPackOrchestralLoop sAAC.pkg

http://audiocontentdownload.apple.com/lp9_ms2_content_2011/JamPackRemixToolsInst rumentsSurround.pkg

http://audiocontentdownload.apple.com/lp9_ms2_content_2011/JamPackRhythmSectionI nstrumentsSurround.pkg

http://audiocontentdownload.apple.com/lp9_ms2_content_2011/JamPackRhythmSectionL oopsAAC.pkg

http://audiocontentdownload.apple.com/lp9_ms2_content_2011/JamPackVoicesLoopsAAC .pkg

http://audiocontentdownload.apple.com/lp9_ms2_content_2011/JamPackWorldMusicInst rumentsSurround.pkg

http://audiocontentdownload.apple.com/lp9_ms2_content_2011/JamPackWorldMusicLoop sAAC.pkg

http://audiocontentdownload.apple.com/lp9_ms2_content_2011/LogicProSurroundConte nt.pkg

http://audiocontentdownload.apple.com/lp9_ms2_content_2011/ProAudioAdditionalCon tent.pkg

http://audiocontentdownload.apple.com/lp9_ms2_content_2011/ProAudioCoreContent.p kg

http://audiocontentdownload.apple.com/lp9_ms2_content_2011/RemixTools_Instrument s.pkg

http://audiocontentdownload.apple.com/lp9_ms2_content_2011/RhythmSection_Instrum ents.pkg

http://audiocontentdownload.apple.com/lp9_ms2_content_2011/Voices_Instruments.pk g

http://audiocontentdownload.apple.com/lp9_ms2_content_2011/WorldMusic_Instrument s.pkg

Many thanks, Macinbosch! I tried this and received:

GarageBand11InstrumentsPro.pkg - 327 MB

JamPack1.pkg - 253 MB

JamPack4_Instruments.pkg - 1.19 GB

JamPackOneInstrumentsSurround.pkg - 106 KB

JamPackOneLoopsAAC.pkg - 450 MB

JamPackOrchestralInstrumentsSurround.pkg - 106 KB

JamPackOrchestralLoopsAAC.pkg - 656 MB

JamPackRemixToolsInstrumentsSurround.pkg - 111 KB

JamPackRhythmSectionInstrumentsSurround.pkg - 106 KB

JamPackRhythmSectionLoopsAAC.pkg - 381 MB

JamPackVoicesLoopsAAC.pkg - 303 MB

JamPackWorldMusicInstrumentsSurround.pkg - 123 KB

JamPackWorldMusicLoopsAAC.pkg - 579 MB

LogicProSurroundContent.pkg - 508 MB

ProAudioAdditionalContent.pkg - 4.59 GB

ProAudioCoreContent.pkg - 1.96 GB

RemixTools_Instruments.pkg - 440 MB

RhythmSection_Instruments.pkg - 1.27 GB

Voices_Instruments.pkg - 605 MB

WorldMusic_Instruments.pkg - 2.32 GB

=> ALL TOGETHER ABOUT 15.83 GB - is that really all? (<=> 19 GB?)

I think there are a few missing... I'll go and have another look. I probably already had some installed from GarageBand.

If you were wondering, I found these in the Logic Pro plist file:

~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.logic.pro.plist

And they're under the 'MAPrefs_ActiveMentorDownloads' key. Not sure if they'll be there for everyone, but for me they were 🙂

I'd be good if there was a list somewhere with all the packages.

Alrighty! I found all of them. Link below should have the entire list. 😀

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2972851/logic-downloads-fixed.html

Thanks for the list.

I compared the old with the new list - the difference / missing were just:

+ GarageBand11Loops.pkg + 236 MB

+ JamPackRemixToolsLoopsAAC.pkg + 412 MB

Together 648 MB, so all together about 16.5 GB - still not 19 GB.

Does this mean the original information ("19 GB optional content") was wrong...?

Maybe the difference is between the package size and the size of the stuff once it is installed?

Bluberry is right. I think the packages are slightly compressed when they're downloaded. Also, I think it's got to do with the conversion betewen Gibibytes and Gigabytes. (eg 2^10 and 10^3). Anyway, I'm pretty sure they're all there.

Simply copy the folders to the equivalent locations on your other Macs

This is a big list:

<Startup Disk>:Library:Application Support:Logic

<Startup Disk>:Library:Application Support:garageband:Instrument Library

<Startup Disk>:Library:Audio:Apple Loops

<Startup Disk>:Library:Audio:Impulse Responses

That should (?) be it

CCT

CCT - Thanks for the list of locations.

I'm trying to verify that the installed content has all been correctly downloaded. Would it be possible for you to confirm the directories/sizes that should be created under the Application Support & Audio folders?

I had some previously installed content & in an attempt to reduce the download time checked the option to not download the existing content.

What I have currently is:

<Startup Disk>:Library:Application Support:Logic Total Size=4.36GB

<Startup Disk>:Library:Application Support:Logic:Project Templates 1.1MB

<Startup Disk>:Library:Application Support:Logic:Logic Pro Demo Songs 204.5MB

<Startup Disk>:Library:Application Support:Logic:Channel Strip Settings 112.7MB

<Startup Disk>:Library:Application Support:Logic:Plug-In Settings 29.6MB

<Startup Disk>:Library:Application Support:Logic:Sampler Instruments 41.5MB

<Startup Disk>:Library:Application Support:Logic:EXS Factory Samples 3.06MB

<Startup Disk>:Library:Application Support:Logic:Ultrabeat Samples 942MB

<Startup Disk>:Library:Application Support:GarageBand Total Size=14.36MB

<Startup Disk>:Library:Audio:Apple Loops: Total Size=3.25GB

<Startup Disk>:Library:Audio:Apple Loops:Apple:Jam Pack 1 244.6MB

<Startup Disk>:Library:Audio:Apple Loops:Apple:Jam Pack Remix Tools 450.8MB

<Startup Disk>:Library:Audio:Apple Loops:Apple:Jam Pack Rhythm Section 415.9MB

<Startup Disk>:Library:Audio:Apple Loops:Apple:Jam Pack Symphony Orchestra 695.2MB

<Startup Disk>:Library:Audio:Apple Loops:Apple:Jam Pack World Music 640.9MB

<Startup Disk>:Library:Audio:Apple Loops:Apple:Jam Pack Voices 313.4MB

<Startup Disk>:Library:Audio:Apple Loops:Apple:Apple Loops for GarageBand 244.2MB

<Startup Disk>:Library:Audio:Impulse Responses: Total Size=1.82GB

<Startup Disk>:Library:Audio:Impulse Responses:Apple:01 Large Spaces 245.3MB

<Startup Disk>:Library:Audio:Impulse Responses:Apple:02 Medium Spaces 55.9MB

<Startup Disk>:Library:Audio:Impulse Responses:Apple:03 Small Spaces 27.1MB

<Startup Disk>:Library:Audio:Impulse Responses:Apple:04 Surround Spaces 898.1MB

<Startup Disk>:Library:Audio:Impulse Responses:Apple:05 Warped 591.1MB

The total size of the above is 23.79GB.

Is there anything else that should be installed?

Thanks in advance for the assistance.

Cheers,

Paul.